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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:20 PM
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CSPAN 3 Foreign Relations Markup back--Obama up!
thread 1 - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=26010&mesg_id=26010

CSPAN link - http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:26 PM
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1. link for thread 2 wasn't working in thread 1, for me anyway,,
needed to find you in GD
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:29 PM
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3. Thanks for the heads up!
fixed now :blush:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:31 PM
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4. no prob.
thanks for taking the time to do this..:hi:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:26 PM
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2. 'Strongly supportive' of Biden-Hagel amendment
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:31 PM
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5. BREAKING! Murkowski says oops!
She "takes back" her initial words that wording is 'politically motivated', and apologizes to Hagel. Just Hagel mind you, not Biden or Levin.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:36 PM
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6. Murkowski is taking a lot of words to say not much of anything imo
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 12:37 PM by Mind_your_head
She doesn't want it to be a democratic resolution.

Doesn't want it to be Dem vs. Repub b/c that will erode 'support' even further.

edit: typo
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:38 PM
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7. She wants to know what other options there are besides
Surge on the one hand or Withdrawal on the other end of the spectrum.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:39 PM
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8. Murkowski is lecturing Hagel/Biden on not supporting anything
that would hurt the troops???!!!!???? Could she be any stupider?? What a lightweight!! She is embarrassing herself. Ohhhhhh, she said panoply, big word!! She really is a dope.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:42 PM
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9. Biden saying opposition to the surge is not about the number of troops
It's about the Mission. Fundamentally different things.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:42 PM
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10. ROFL! Biden lecturing her
:popcorn:
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:42 PM
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11. Webb up now
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:42 PM
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12. WEBB!!!!!!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:48 PM
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16. I'm becoming quite enamored with this guy
nothing like a reformed republick
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:50 PM
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17. He was one of those "Reagan Democrats" though
:)
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:43 PM
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13. Jim Webb speaking now n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:44 PM
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14. Webb: It's become all to clear that Congress is going to have to
take the lead on this whether we like it or not.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:45 PM
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15. Referring to Kerry's comments earlier
Recommends keeping the debate away from Vietnam War.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:02 PM
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29. Webb supported Vietnam war and won't change his opinion on it, no matter what, but
at least he EARNED his opinion, even if it is wrong - unlike the GOP chickenhawks who BLAME protests for the loss of the war.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:50 PM
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18. Vitter R of Louisiana will not support the Resolution
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :grr:
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:51 PM
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19. okeydokey! Vitter gives it a thumbsdown!
Gee! He could have leveraged for some Katrina money, but decides to sell his soul in its entirety instead.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:52 PM
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20. Another hypocrite up - says you cannot oppose a plan
if you don't have a plan. Wonder what Hagel will say to him??? The fool's name is Sen. Vitter, R, of course.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:54 PM
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21. Biden smacking him down, now Vitter argues
minutiae (sp) - schumck.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:55 PM
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23. Biden-Let's clarify Vitter-um, uh, that's not what I meant, Biden-
you're full of shit Senator.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:54 PM
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22. What a tool! "We have to have a plan before we can reject a plan"
(paraphrased)

So, he's saying the President is the only one with a plan and I have to support a plan so I support the President. :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

He may want to check that document titled "Constitution".
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:55 PM
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24. Bill Nelson smacking Vitter down too
He just said that there is a plan, but this vote is about a plan Bush proposed - to send 20,000 more troops to Iraq. That is what they are voting on.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:58 PM
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26. Yup! And doing a good job of it too! n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:56 PM
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25. Nelson up
Mentions his trip to Syria and the ME.
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:58 PM
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27. Nelson highlights being a co-equal branch with the Executive n/t
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:59 PM
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28. Cardin up now
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Mind_your_head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:05 PM
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30. Bob Casey up now
Biden says he is to be the last speaker before a vote.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:18 PM
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32. First Amendment failed
Now going to vote on Second Amendment - I have no idea on what they are voting on, what it is
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:20 PM
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33. It is great to see Lugar and Coleman and the other repubs
get knocked down. Coleman looks like he wants to croak.

Vote is close.

Amendment fails.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:14 PM
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31. Getting ready to go through the amendments; Biden will vote NO
on all amendments "in order to get a clean bill".

Well, on the one hand I'd have to agree with Biden on that particularly since it is a 'non-binding' resolution.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:21 PM
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34. 1st & 2nd amendments failed, Coleman's amendment up now
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:21 PM
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35. Third Amendment - We should be open to troop increases
when requested from the commanders on the ground.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:24 PM
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kaboom!
Another one down
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:24 PM
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36. Third Amendment Fails
This is, I believe, because no one trusts Bush from twisting the arms of the commanders to ask for more troops.

No one trusts Bush anymore except for the deepest Kool-Aide drinkers.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:25 PM
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39. That's part of it. Biden-Hagel want to get it to the floor "clean"
No amendments.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:24 PM
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37. Voice Vote - Third Amendment Fails
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:25 PM
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38. Final vote up now!! 12 ayes 9 nos!!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:26 PM
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41. nice group of smilies
and YAY.:bounce:
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:38 PM
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43. Thanks halobeam!
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:26 PM
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40. Vote on the Resolution
The Amendment PASSES!!!

It's a start in taking our country back from Bush, the Warmonger.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 01:27 PM
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42. Passed and we are adjourned!
Thanks guys! :hi:
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