Clinton supporters in NH admit Clinton LIED and want to make up with Obama

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/18/16504/5484


They admit that Clinton lied about Obama's womans rights votes. They Claim Hillary nEVER told them truth and they signed the letter against Obama without knowing Clinton was lying. Now they want to make up with Obama supporters.

She makes me sick.

Did Hillary break their fingers?

That's a pretty sad admission.

Is that what you think supporting a candidate is? Blind faith? Isn't that just for God?

I have no idea what the problem is for those signers up in New Hampshire. Nobody should ever sign ANYTHING they cannot personally vouch for. Taking someone else's word? Let the someone else sign.

As for trying to make up with Obama supporters IN THE MIDDLE OF A CAMPAIGN??????? AFTER the primary? If you don't smell a rat, you have no nose. This is something to do with local politics, not national.

supporters in the local news (reposted here) and how neither camp would support the other in the GE because of nasties that went down.

I agree with your call -- this is about local politics and protecting down ticket races.

When I first read about the letters and what they said about Obama I was angry too. Then I found out the letters weren't lying. Its true Obama voted present on seven abortion bills. Obama said he was asked to vote that way by pro-choice groups but now they say what really happened was Obama and others were offered the choice of voting present if they didn't want to take the heat from voting no. Obama could have voted no. He took the easy way out and ducked the issues. Whether or not some groups told him he could do it, Obama took the easy way out.

I mean, give me a fuggin' break! :eyes:

Hillary must have used her voodoo mind control powers again. :scared:

They trusted her enough not to think that she would write lies and get them to sign it. Nowhere near as important, but can you think of a leader who used lies to get people to sign on to a plan with promises he also never intended to keep?

This is less significant, but if HRC knew this was untrue and she was ok with her staff getting these good women to sign it, it says really bad things about her character.

Note there are many ifs here.

having said that--it is not acceptable.

Katie Wheeler, a former state senator, said the Clinton campaign had not given her background information about Obama's record on abortion rights when it asked her to sign the letter calling him weak on the issue, and said that, as a result, she did not understand the context of the votes that the letter was attacking him over.

"It should never have gotten to the point where anyone thought Obama was not pro-choice," said Wheeler, a founder of the New Hampshire chapter of NARAL Pro-Choice America. "I don't think the Clinton campaign should have done that. It was divisive and unnecessary...I think it was a mistake and I've spoken to the national and told them it caused problems in New Hampshire, and am hoping they won't do it again."

speak to high of her

These are NARAL people? Oh, well then.

I have a lot of respect for Terrie Norelli and Maggie Hassan. I supported Terrie's campaign for Minority Leader in 2005 and her run for Speaker in 2007. Maggie represents the town where I grew up. As much as the Clinton tactics disgust me, I take these two women at their word.

Katie Wheeler is a bit different. The Gore campaign used her as a hatchet woman against Bill Bradley in 2000. She made some questionable attacks on Bradley's health care plan that played fast and loose with the facts. She doesn't get a free pass.

But Hassan stood by what she said was the main point of the initial e-mail, that Clinton was the most staunchly pro-choice Democrat. "All of the leading Democratic candidates are strongly pro-choice but I think Hillary's record is unparalleled. I stand by what I signed before the election and don't think it's inconsistent with" the new e-mail stating that Obama is strongly pro-choice, Hassan said. "Everybody's going to interpret these letters and e-mails as they want to."

Norelli, the House Speaker, said she had been aware of the Planned Parenthood defense of Obama's Illinois record at the time she signed the critical e-mail but was comfortable with the letter's attack against Obama nonetheless, noting the concerns of the Illinois NOW chapter had raised about the votes. "I would say that the record is clear that he voted 'present' seven times. Planned Parenthood, some of the time at least, says it was part of a deal. Well, NOW says that in 2004, they chose not to endorse Sen. Obama" because of the votes, Norelli said. "I would say every voter needs to have all the factual information and each individual needs to make their own decision."

As for the new conciliatory note, Norelli said there was no inconsistency in calling Obama "strongly pro-choice" after attacking him on the present votes. "I would take any of the Democratic candidates on issues of choice over any of the Republican candidates. But I would take Hillary Clinton and her leadership on choice over Senator Obama," she said. Norelli said the purpose of the latest e-mail was to help calm the ruffled feathers of the Obama supporters. "We are working to heal any problems that there are among the Democrats and looking forward to working together closely," she said. "They have time to get over it."
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So I don't see any "supporters" claiming Clinton camp "LIED" about anything. I see one person out of two dozen saying she wouldn't have signed the original email. Of the three who signed the new letter, two stand by the original.

Ironic that you would use the word "LIE" to start a thread designed to mislead.

And Hillary's campaign accepted or preferred the NOW version? And then NARAL comes along and flip flops over what they believe? But it's HILLARY's fault?

Well, of course it is. And Obama's credibility sinks to a new low, because the people who support him lie in his name.

I don't know where any of our candidates get the energy to campaign for a job that won't let them sleep for four years.