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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:15 PM
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Hillary supports Joe LIEberman .......NO SURPRISE
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/18/203027/281/162/439176


Hillary calls Joe an Independent Democrat....Maybe he is her pick for Vice Prez...
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:16 PM
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1. Obama 'n' Edwards people are fighting fire with fire I see...
...GOOD.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:16 PM
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2. For this reason alone she should be pummeled in the polls..
screw her and Joe LIEberman
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:17 PM
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3. She can Fight McCain for him on the ticket.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:17 PM
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4. That's okay. Obama supports Reagan.
:crazy:

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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:19 PM
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6. And Edwards..
.. doesn't support either one.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:45 PM
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26. And hugs Lieberman. His mentor.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:02 PM
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37. Why, is Reagan running for something?
That's gonna be difficult, what with him being dead and all.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:06 PM
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53. I hope you're joking
If not....*facepalm*
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:18 PM
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5. You know what happens if we lose holy Joe in the Senate don't you?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:19 PM
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8. Nothing..
.. changes, NOTHING.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:21 PM
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11. You think?
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 09:21 PM by William769
Better go look and see what the counts are in the Senate.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:27 PM
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14. He votes with...
.. the Repukes on the war, the piddly shit he votes on our side on isn't worth a bucket of warm spit.

I can count a lot better than you can think.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:29 PM
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16. Do you know what caucusing means in the Senate?
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 09:30 PM by William769
ON EDIT then prove it you can count better because you don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:22 AM
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57. Show me one time..
... when Lieberman has pushed through an important vote or saved us from an important veto. One time. (since he became an "independent" of course.

One important thing. On the war, on the tax system, One Thing.

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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:29 PM
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15. same o same o
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:31 PM
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18. How do you figure?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:37 PM
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23. Can We Lose all other Enablers too? (nt)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:38 PM
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24. What does that have to do with what I posted?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:51 PM
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29. You Said If We'd Lose Joe...
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 09:52 PM by fascisthunter
well, can we lose the rest of them (enablers=DLC) in the process?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:55 PM
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31. We lose Joe, we lose the Senate, Understand?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:59 PM
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33. It's Already Lost
free yourself from false notions and people like Lieberman can't blackmail you. Get rid of him and the rest of them. In the end, we'll be stronger for it and losers like Joe won't dare to screw with us the way he has. Don't give in.... create the political reality by standing up.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:01 PM
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36. And how is it already lost?
We hold the Chaairmanships. Yor drive buy won't work.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:05 PM
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39. The Dem Leadership WIll Never Let Anything Meaningful Happen
Impeachment is off the table.... everything good gets vetoed. It's a political stale mate. It is already lost through compromise of the worst kind. Never give worms like Joe the upper hand. Allowing someone like Joe to politically blackmail our political party is allowing Joe and the GOP to blackmail America itself. Too outsiders, it's unforgivable and makes dems look weak.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:08 PM
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42. So it's not lost then, your just giving your opinion. There is a difference.
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 10:09 PM by William769
Wonder what would be happening right now with a Republican controlled Congress. Just some food for thought.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:14 PM
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44. Pssst... with Leaders Like Reid They Pretty Much are in Control (nt)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:15 PM
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45. No substance when you have some please stop by again.
:eyes:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:22 PM
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46. Neither Do You... but You Do Have Fear
and that seems to be all that forms your opinion that we should do what it takes (sellout our principles) to keep Joe.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:27 PM
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49. Actually if you mean if we lose LIEberman we lose the
committees you're wrong. When they set up the committees in the beginning of 2007 - they set it up so the committees will stay in tact until the new Senate in 2009....even if LIEberman changes sides but he probably won't.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:58 PM
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54. Not true, Senate changes the hands of power so do Committees.
Democrats will be the minority and will have no say in the matter.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:09 PM
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58. Nope actually it is true and you're mistaken
the organizational resolution which set up for this Congress put into place in early January 2007 is in effect until early Jan 2009 and does not make the changing of the committees automatic if the composition of the Senate changes - "They" would have to pass a new organizing resolution which hopefully the Dems would block.

Go check out the "googles" its a wonderful thing

and for the record - the Dems would NOT be the minority if LIEberman caucused with the repunks - it would be 49 49 2 as it is now except it would end up 49/1 and 49/1 instead of 49/2 49/0

Doesn't really matter being an election year and considering the performance of the Senate in 2007 nothing is going to happen in the Senate in 2008 more of the same as 2007 - and there is a strong likelihood of the Dems taking a significant Senate lead in November - with the repunks having many more seats up for election than the Dems.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:19 PM
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7. and the answer is: "Hillary Underground"
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:20 PM
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9. No frikkin' way. nt
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:20 PM
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10. Oh come on, next you'll say she's on record admiring Reagan!
Ooops.........

Are we sure she's registered as a Democrat?
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:22 PM
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12. And Lieberman supports McCain
Yep :puke:
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:25 PM
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13. I didn't get the impression of unflinching support for Lieberman from that video clip.
It was more of forced tolerance, which has been the stance of the Dems in the Senate toward Lieberman since he played his little trick.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:29 PM
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17. I agree. She 'had' to say that, right now. She can't afford to anger
anyone. After the November elections, when the wheels of justice might be swinging towards the Dems, all bets are off for Lieberman-I hope. :scared:
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:32 PM
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19. Not if Hillary is in the WH
LIEberman will be in the mix
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:59 PM
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32. I imagine Hillary doesn't like or agree with Lieberman any more than
we do. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:36 PM
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21. And just think how *great* it would be if Lieberman
decided to caucus Republican for the last year of this senate and this administration :sarcasm:

Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Lieberman I-Con ... but I understand the pragmatics and having Lieberman caucus dem prevents the republicans from chairing all senate committees (do we really think Gonzo would be gone if the republicans ran the senate?) I can not wait until there is a bigger dem sen majority (which I believe will happen in 08) so that Lieberman really can be made completely irrelevant and voiceless. Until then - I understand the senate dynamics in which Lieberman is needed to avoid a repub majority.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:37 PM
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22. Finally a coherent person here! Thanks.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:44 PM
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25. we may not agree on many things - but on this,
we can agree.

Forgive me for bringing up old baggage - but I find the absurd level of bashing on both sides a little loco - including stating that Obama is less qualified than Huckabee to president. ;-) But know that I will speak out clearly to what I consider absurd statements - on all sides. Peace.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:47 PM
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27. I would not expect anything less from you.
I would like to know who saids this though, "stating that Obama is less qualified than Huckabee to president".
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:59 PM
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34. I think it was a response to a thread
asking if *anyone* was less qualified than Huckabee to be president... and a one word response of "Obama".

Perhaps I am confusing the Clinton supporting poster who responded that way. But I chalk it more up to getting caught up into the candidate supporter wars/snark attacks which flare up in this season (I don't participate this round - due to the 04 round on DU), than perhaps to real sentiment.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:10 PM
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43. Thanks for the response.
I only asked because I had not seen it.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:54 PM
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30. Huh? n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:03 PM
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38. I hear you, salin, and agree. nt
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:06 PM
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41. It is so hard to try to both be
pragmatic, and idealistic/hopeful. I try, and know that others do as well. Seems that many fall only into pragmatic or idealistic and it leads to conversations that sometimes get harsh due to different orientations (per pragmatism/idealism).

As always, it is good to see you and cross paths on the forums (with the exception of a couple of weeks ago, I rarely have the time anymore to post much, let alone cross paths with old DU compatriots!)
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:34 PM
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20. After reading all these posts, I would like to say
IBTL!

:hi:
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:22 PM
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47. What's IBTL?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:04 PM
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52. if i told you that would spoil it
but i'll give you a hint...it hasn't happened yet and if it does happen, i won't be able to tell you here. :crazy:
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:47 PM
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28. They're both DLC. As you say, no surprise.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:00 PM
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35. You need to get up to speed with history buddy.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:45 PM
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51. Talk is cheap, you were saying?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:09 AM
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55. He is not supported by the DLC.
"In reaction to Senator Joe Lieberman's (ID-CT) endorsement of Senator John McCain's campaign for president today, Al From, founder and CEO of the Democratic Leadership Council, released the following statement:

"I am very saddened by Senator Lieberman's choice, and profoundly disagree with it. We need to elect a Democratic president in 2008." ".



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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:20 PM
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59. The only replies I see
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 05:22 PM by notsodumbhillbilly
beneath my post are yours and two "ignored". (Have I mentioned lately that I put DLC supporters/defenders on ignore?) :)
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:05 PM
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40. Oooo, that's rich!
Joe LIEberman? The Joe LIEberman that was Obama's mentor in the Senate? The Joe LIEberman that Obama campaigned for in Connecticut?
THAT Joe LIEberman?? Huh.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:24 PM
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48. Joementum will NEVER be a Dem nominee for ANYTHING, why would YOU say it?!1 n/t
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 10:42 PM
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50. They are both DLC
” When the DLC gets to the specifics of foreign policy, such as supporting the invasion and occupation of Iraq, there seems to be little separating its progressive internationalism from the “neo-imperial” foreign policy of the Bush administration and its neoconservative advisers
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1463
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:23 AM
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56. More Documentary Evidence of Hillary Being A Lefty? Puke some more! K&R
:puke:
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