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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:08 PM
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Nevada SEIU member at Edwards rally. "A lot of us are going to caucus for John. Everyone knows
Everyone knows our union wanted Edwards from the beginning but settled for Obama .......

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/17/john-edwards-not-planning_n_81914.html

John Edwards Not Planning to Quietly Fade Away
January 17, 2008 01:26 AM
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:19 PM
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1. Edwards cannot win. He should drop out. He hurts Obama.
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:22 PM
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3. Or maybe Obama should drop out
because he's hurting Edwards. Makes about as much sense. :shrug:
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:29 PM
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8. Maybe EVERYBODY should drop out
because they hurt Obama. That way, we could cancel all these pesky primaries where people vote for who they want. :sarcasm:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:23 PM
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4. I think Obama should drop out. He hurts Edwards.
:eyes:
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:25 PM
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5. This is America. John Edwards is the PEOPLE"S choice - because he'll do more for us
than another "uniter" who can give great speeches written by speech writers but falls flat on his face when its off the cuff. But he's good at saying present, sitting on the fence, and sucking up to republicans.

You'd think you would have had enough of republicans ...unless.....
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:28 PM
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6. Newsflash: Edwards gathering plenty of delegates and
delegates are what count.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:28 PM
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7.  Obama is hurting himself by
mentioning Reagan.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:46 PM
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9. Obama is running out of gas - dont think he really wants this, prolly just
wanted to get his name known figuring next time around down the road he'd win a presidency....and now he's caught up in this...so shooting himself in the foot to
make himself a lil more unappetizing. Reagan, dissing black people, which they dont seem to realize, Joe Lieberman...lyng about taking lobbiest money " I dont take lobbiest money or pac money either John" good thing Edwards has legal training not to burst out laughing or swearing...just narrowed one eye, raised one eyebrow and looked straight at Obama's lying eyes and mouth.

Like who ya gonna believe, your eyes or my mouth.

Obama is reminding me more and more of georgieporgie...and I'm not saying that to be mean..it's the truth ...he doesnt believe in getting involved in running the government ? allocates the bureacracy to others to handle? Even Hillary gagged on that one.

Whatever happened to Harry Truman's "The Buck Stops Here" ?

I'd love to be at one of Obama's rallies and ask him that.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:34 AM
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21. Obama is hurting himself by thinking he's entitled to the nomination
for whatever reasons he thinks he is. I won't vote for him.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:49 PM
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11. Larry O' Donnell... is that yoooouuu?
:rofl:
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:50 PM
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12. If that's the only way your candidate can win, that's pretty sad
I would hope even Obama would be appalled at your post.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:12 AM
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14. BULL CRAP
Edwards does not hurt Obama.

None of the candidates are entitled to the nomination, none of the candidates are entitled to only be in a two person race.

If Obama is to be our nominee, he must earn it. He must earn it because not only because no one is entitled, but because the primary is a cake walk compared to what the general election is going to be.

Practically speaking, the thing to keep in mind is that delegates in our primaties are not winner take all. That means if you see Democrats as falling into two camps (for Clinton or not) Edwards could actually help Obama, or at least do no harm. Say you have some one who just doesn't care for Clinton, but hasn't been sold on Obama. They can vote for Edwards. That's one less vote for Obama, but one less for Clinton, too. Worst case scenario is we come down to a brokered convention. If you really see his (John Edwards) supporters as being potential Obama votes, it all come out right in Denver. If Edwards were to drop out now and endorse Obama, it would be meaningless.

Now, it would be a little different if the system were winner take all. Then I could see where that 10% Edwards got may have been "taken away from" Obama. Then, you could have a situation where 60% of the people are not for Clinton, but she wins because that 60% was split between Obama and Edwards

But, why be so sure all these Edwards supporters would go for Obama instead of Clinton? Why assume the Edwards campaign makes things harder for Obama than Clinton?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:24 AM
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15. Thats just silly and if he does. so what? Why is that his problem?
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:45 AM
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17. Obama cannot win. He should DROP OUT. He HURTS EDWARDS
How do you like them Apples?

Maybe turned into applesauce so it will go down a little easier:evilgrin:





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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:20 PM
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2. Why would they settle for someone less interested in their cause?
It makes no sense.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 11:49 PM
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10. Kick for an Edwards victory!!!
:kick:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:09 AM
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13. With Hillary and Obama kickin the crap outta each other
Isnt Edwards up 5%......

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:13 AM
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16. Go Hillary, Go Obama!
KEEP KICKING THE CRAP OUT OF EACH OTHER SO EDWARDS CAN WIN SATURDAY!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:49 AM
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18. The Gipper Obama will probably start to fade. n/t
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:58 AM
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19. That's what I'm talkin' about,
even people in unions can caucus for who they think is the best candidate, as it should be.

It's hardly a strategy that Bonior would confirm. But neither would he deny it when asked directly by the HuffPost. "I can tell you this much," Bonior said. "We're going to be marching into that convention with a whole lot of delegates."

Sounds GOOD to me.:thumbsup:




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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:29 AM
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20. Seems Like A Real Unorganized Mess...
I was listening to a program about how this caucus works among several Nevada political observers and none really understood how this caucus was to work. One was a Hispanic who said he was concerned over the procedure as many were afraid that they need to English to particpate or that they need to prove party membership or citizenship papers. There's also confusion as to where sites will be and that the caucus process that takes several hours may also keep people away from enjoying a day off.

This is the first caucus of this type in Nevada and there's no history to base participation on. We have no clue about turn out and, as in Iowa, orgaization will be key to whomever wins. It's not just getting your people to say they'll support you, it's another to actually show up at the caucus.
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