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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:35 AM
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"Why Hillary Will Win Nevada "
Interesting analysis here. I'm inclined to believe, from what I've discovered here on the ground in NV, that Hillary does have the state Democratic Party apparatus behind her in full force -- an extension of the Clinton machine. It will all depend on who gets their supporters to the caucuses tomorrow.

... I am providing an analysis of why I feel Hillary will do well in Nevada and probably win the caucuses by 2-3%. I am also a Hillary partisan, as most Kossacks will be aware.

Hillary's Endorsements

NEVADA
Congresswoman Shelley Berkley
State Treasurer Kate Marshall
State Senate Minority Leader Dina Titus
State Senator Bob Coffin
Assembly Majority Leader John Oceguera
State Assemblyman William Horne
Assemblyman Ruben J. Kihuen
Assemblywoman Kathy McClain
Assemblyman Harry Mortenson
Assemblyman Morse Arberry
Assemblywoman Susan Gerhardt
Mayor of Lovelock, Lena Johnson
Former Congressman James Bilbray
Former Governor Bob Miller
Former Las Vegas Mayor Jan Jones
Rory Reid, Son of Harry Reid and top Democratic Official.

Unions who have endorsed (or parent bodies have endorsed)
AFCSME/ SNEA 5,000
PAT Local 2001 (Henderson, NV) 370
PAT Local 159 (Henderson, NV) 2,026
IATSE Local 720 in Las Vegas 1,722
NALC Branch 2502 (Las Vegas, NV) 1,673
ATU Local 1637 (Las Vegas, NV) 131
ATU Local 1758 (Las Vegas, NV) 82
BAC Local 13 (Las Vegas, NV) 984
SMW Council (Sparks, NV) 9
SMW Local 88 (Las Vegas, NV) 1,001
IAM Lodge 845 (Las Vegas, NV) 760
UTU Local 1043 (Reno, NV) 113
UTU Local 1117 (Las Vegas, NV) 63
UTU Local 1775 (Elko, NV) 20
Nevada Classified School Employees Association, 3,400

Note:The Nevada State Education Association (NSEA) has not endorsed Hillary, but many in their leadership have and the vast majority of its 18,000 members are widely perceived to be behind Hillary.

Newspapers
Las Vegas Sun


The endorsement list reads like a dream-list for Hillary. Shelley Berkley, Rory Reid and Dina Titus sit atop the Las Vegas Democratic machine which is a smaller version of the Chicago machine that was so effective for Obama in neighbouring Iowa. The combination of Berkley, Reid and Titus can be relied on to deliver big, and there is a strong chance they will. Likewise having the support of Assembly Majority Leader John Oceguera and Assemblyman Ruben J. Kihuen, two of Nevada's top Latino politicians can likewise be relied upon to make major inroads into the Latino community for Hillary. Ruben, who ran Kerry's Latino outreach campaign, is a major up-and-coming star in the Latin community. A young man blessed with extraordinary good looks and powerful speaking ability in both English and Spanish, he is widely looked to as the "Barack Obama" of Nevada politics.

~snip~

Conclusion with Unions: With the unions, it will all be about turn out and who can keep their ranks from breaking. Hillary's union ranks are already tight and not likely to break. Obama's ranks are already fractured in Las Vegas and the Upstate along both Latino support lines and Upstate-Downstate lines, so Obama is on the back foot in terms of breakage with a slight front foot in terms of overall plurality numbers.

Upstate-Downstate Divide: Like in New York, Minnesota and Michigan, there is a big geographic divide in voting in Nevada. With the perception of Las Vegas getting all the attention in the south, and the more rural and sparsely distributed Upstaters tending to get left out. Hillary is leading in the Upstate by huge margins both union and non-union especially in the rural areas. Look at Upper Michigan where over 20 counties voted Hillary 75+ when in the rest of the state she got 55%. Hillary will clean up in the rural and remote areas, and it is these voters which will likely throw her over the top.

~snip~

WHO WILL WIN NEVADA
Being as I did predict New Hampshire quite well between Hillary and Obama, and considering the above analysis, I will come out with a prediction, which this time is actually very close to where the polls are now.

HILLARY 40%
OBAMA 37%
EDWARDS 23%

And I will further predict that it will be a high turnout Upstate for Hillary which will clinch the state victory over a razor thin small Obama lead in Las Vegas and overall tie in Clark County. So I am out on the branch again. ... Anyway I welcome all or any critiques of my critique. I am no expert on Nevada, but I certainly enjoyed my time there and learning about the great Silver State.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/18/202753/916/163/439175

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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:38 AM
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1. guess what? Nevada is weird ...so we all just need to get through our little caucus
tomorrow and we will have to wait and see!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:46 AM
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4. Yes, ursi, happy caucusing.
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 12:46 AM by Emit
:hi:

Seriously, though, from your perspective, what do you think of this guy's analysis? Do you feel she's got the big wig momentum behind her?

Interesting, at a minimum, to see what local politicians are supporting which candidates. I was unaware, until today, for example, that Sheila Leslie (AD 27) appears to be endorsing Obama. I saw Pete Sferrazza at the Clinton event, and Kate Marshall introduced Bill; AD 24 rep, Bobzien, is supporting Edwards. Hillary seems to have the majority of superdelegates wrapped up: Former Governor Bob Miller is probably a superdelegate -- Reid and Shelley Berkley certainly are.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:39 AM
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2. Obama will win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:40 AM
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3. why...? if she gets more "votes" than anyone else -she wins!
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:48 AM
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5. caucuses will not be good for hillary, but she has a good chance of winning anyway. nt
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:08 AM
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6. Hillary had the "apparatus" endorsements in Iowa...
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 02:08 AM by TwoSparkles
...and look what happened to her there. She came in third.

In Iowa, Hillary had the endorsements of our previous Democratic governor, Tom Vilsack. She had Congressman Boswell. Hillary also had the coveted endorsement of the Des Moines Register, which
is the biggest newspaper in Iowa, circulated statewide. She also had many union endorsements.

Who knows. Maybe those endorsements will work well for her in Nevada. I can tell you that
in Iowa, they did not work because they were seen as endorsements of the typical political
apparatus that everyone is sick and tired of. Iowans went around all of that common-party
stuff and said, "We decide who we want. Not our tired Democratic politicians and not the
main-stream media".

When you have the overwhelming endorsement of the Democratic power brokers, and the
rest of the "Establishment" it can work against you---especially in a year when people
are looking for real change.

It will be very interesting to watch this all unfold tomorrow, that's for sure.


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:12 AM
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7. I think Edwards will have the rural areas
and that a lot of the union miner type vote will go to him. I think Edwards will have a little more and the other two a little less, but Hillary will still win.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:15 AM
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8. I think Hillary will win
also. and I am ok with that. She is my second choice behind Edwards. Good luck to all tomorrow.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:35 AM
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9. Kick for more discussion
I want to know what others think about this prediction.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:38 AM
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10. I predicted the same thing earlier
today, but I think Hillary takes it with a larger margin.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:40 AM
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11. Doesn't matter.
Even with a third-place finish, she'll walk away with the most delegates. Again.
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