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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:17 PM Original message |
The REAL reason for the fight against Roe v. Wade: PRIVACY |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well, yeah |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. A right to privacy puts the breaks on the more intrusive behaviors of government |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think it's CONTROL.... |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. But it goes both ways. It's pretty easy to see some wanting spousal consent or notification |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. There is a bigger picture here: It's about privacy in general |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. If vasectomies were illegal, would you get a back alley one? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. That is part of what Roe v Henry Wade protects. It's all under privacy |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Control is exactly what it's about |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Sorry but I disagree |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. You know. Some might look at it the way you desribe, but |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Your assumptions are laughable.. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I can barely understand what you wrote here. Could you try it again please. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. No problem you did not come off as snarky.. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Thank you. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. important point there |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Well |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. you missed my point |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Wha.. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. don't know what to say |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Maybe it can be seen as the difference between what people say |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Sorry |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Let's run it down. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Im still holding here |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. For me the issue here is honesty. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. OK--Who are you and where did you come from? nt |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. I live in the Bible Belt. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. And I come from a predominatly Christian family |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Rock Hill is covered on every single Charlotte news station. |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. You have to be kidding.. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
60. Rock Hill S Carolina? Your profile says Minneapolis! |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
58. As a man, I think you should really listen to pro-choice women. nt |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. You may dress it up how you like, but when the core issues are boiled down it's clear |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Whatever floats your boat.. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. It still comes down to an irrational, faith-based argument to eliminate abortion |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Well thats a hell of allot better than |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Somebody's wracking up the ignores today. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yep, I just checked n/t |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It's about more than that. Look at the OP and try to connect the dots |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
22. One can connect all the dots one likes, but if the picture doesn't fit, it doesn't fit |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
34. No, its really not.. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. I would disagree with one of your points |
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DadOf2LittleAngels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I have to disagree.. |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. But look at the basis of R v W: it's about the right to privacy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I think you're right. Sexual subjugation is most harmful not physically |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. And the right to be one's own--whatever that means--has physical consequences |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. That's right. Belonging to one's self is the opposite of slavery, |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
44. Compulsory motherhood, IMHO, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. The Roe v Wade callers on WJ today were horrible. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 05:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
46. I have to agree |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Sounds about like them. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's hard to figure out how else it could have been stated |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Right to Privacy and Equal Access are what I think of as the reasons. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. I agree. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
17. They sure inspected |
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zorahopkins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
24. Misogyny |
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beltanefauve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
48. Agreed |
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Elspeth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Interesting point |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. I don't think that's necessarily true. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
61. I agree. |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-21-08 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
27. Yep. Give up one civil liberty and they start chipping away |
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kevinbgoode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-22-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
51. If the Right's arguments were truly convincing. . . |
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