Kerry sealed it - no more Mass. liberals

First we tried Mondale and failed. Then Dukakis (ugh - the less said the better). Then Kerry, close but no cigar. No more Massachusetts liberals for president. I think Kerry sealed the deal, and wonder if there will be another for at least a generation.

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and McGovern was from South Dakota. No more northern plains candidates either. Bye bye Brian Schweitzer and Jon Tester. No Presidential ambitions for you.

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That's a fur piece from Massachusetts.

I think he's from Minnesota.

And watch out what you're saying 'bout my Senator. :grr:

This certainly seals it with me for any Southerner.

As much as I loved Kerry, I think Mass or any New England liberal is just too easy to vilify. I don't think we in the NE get it that people across this vast land don't even know what Nantucket IS, and when they saw Kerry out there windsurfing it just seemed so "weird" to them. (I had to explain to a midwesterner exactly where Martha's Vineyard was).

I've still got family in Texas and I have a vacation home in Wisconsin, so I get a perspective that I would lack if I just considered the NE point of view. What I hear in liberal New Haven and with my daughter and son in law in the suburbs of Boston are very, very different from the concerns in the midwest and southwest. IT's a different world. Don't get me wrong; I've gladly chosen to be a New Englander. It's just that we can't elect anybody president. Sigh...

Just thought it'd look cool four times in a row.

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he also knows how to run and manage the logistics of a campaign in addition to the politics of one.

The topic is a silly argument, imho. It's as if Massachusetts is now officially off-limits, even if a future candidate arises from the corner of Beacon and Fremont in Beantown...

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Johnny Carson voice:) I. Did. Not. Know. That.

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just to be safe. There go all the lefties from Montana.

Just to be safe. There goes Louisiana, North Carolina, North Dakota (isn't that the same state as Minnesota anyway?), and Nebraska.

I forgot to mention New Hampshire, too. No candidates from New Hampshire.

in a world where Mondale is from Massachusetts.

Deleware, Vermont, New Hampshire, Rhode Island

Where was he from? Chopped Liver?

I was surprised it took me so long in the thread to find the name Kennedy mentioned though. Good grief - people really should think before opening their mouths (or keyboards as it were).

John Kerry, but I really don't think he in any way completely closes the door on Mass. liberals, liberals in general, potential presidents for Massachusetts. Or Minnesota for that matter. Kerry lost/had the election stolen from him, however you want to express it. But that was just him, not any category he might otherwise represent.

Personally, I'm so sick of the mantra that only a southerner can win, that I want to do violence to people who repeat THAT piece of crap. If anything, we need candidates and ultimately presidents from every part of this country, if for no other reason than that kind of sectarian nonsense needs to be obliterated. I have my own personal regional prejudices and preferences, but I fully understand that they are mine, and lots of other people feel quite differently about various parts of this country.

And not without reason.

Hopefully we Dems can finally learn this lesson.

Get back to us educated, latte-sipping, Volvo-driving Massachusetts elites about how to run the country when you've got that part down, 'k?

Sorry, I'm not usually this snarky but since you seem to be only interested in stirring up shit, I felt snark was the right response.

They are somehow better?

it is a widely held perception

The stereotypical northeastern progressive in the early part of the century wasn't offputting at all and still isn't, see Chaffee, Snowe, Collins, etc.

And the typical rich lying rethug/DINO from other states isn't off putting? :shrug:

And what would those 'reasons' be?

The Democrats from the North East fight for your and everyone else's rights in this country,
unlike some of the DINO's that come from the southern states!

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no more liberals from state with names starting with M, or no more liberals whose last name starts with K, or simply no more liberals? It would make equal sense, and be equally (un)informed.

In case you didnt get the message.

Odd...

Ignorance abounds at DU.

I smell a sock!!!

Every single social success that we have enacted for the public in this country was passed by a "liberal fight" for it or a "liberal congress".

The problem with this country and "liberal" is the conservatives have painted the word "liberal" as a disease. That's because they haven't ever passed a bill to help the middle and lower class. So they pan the "liberal" who has. I think it is about time the "liberals" start their own PR campaign. And show this country that all the CONservatives do is steal from the taxpayer and pass bills for the rich.

have to find ways to work around it.

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and my Massachusetts Liberal Husband would agree with you.

In fact, lets make it a law that no Democrat can run from any state which had a previous Presidential bid that failed.

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In fact, we may have to give up running Democrats entirely. They always seem to lose. Let's just stop running them! That's the ticket.

Let's just eliminate Al Gore cause he couldn't "win" his homestate and he is from TN.:sarcasm:

The weakass DNC never bothered to secure the election process in any way where the votes they earned could get counted.

Seal your MIND against the truth - there is NO DEAL involved, exceot that between the Bushes and the Clintons and Carville and Matalin.

The country needed him then, and still needs him.



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One of the greatest president this country should have had.

and I bet you a brazillion dollars that there will be plenty more "Massachusetts liberals for president."

I'd say Massachusetts is among our best sources for Presidential aspirants.

And since Mondale was from Ceylon, MN, I'd say this post was probably flame bait anyway.

Ceylons -- there's your problem. Someone should alert Starbuck and Co.

We tried Massachusetts and failed at least twice! enough already

I think I remember voting for him, back when Reagan-steria was sweeping the nation.

(unless you have no life)

So I'm guessing it's pale humor on a bad humor day. lol

I would welcome another candidate of his caliber.

:hi:

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did I get it right?

And a gold star! :-)

The fact is, elections OFTEN come down to one state. In 2000 it was FL, 2004 it was OH. Kennedy vs. Nixon was close enough to have been changed by one state. Candidates usually get a 10% boost in their homestate, so the state that our candidates come from does matter. If Gore, Lieberman, Kerry or Edwards were from FL or OH, they'd be in the WHitehouse.

There is also regionalism that can play into how people vote. Clinton won AR and many states in that region. Carter won GA and many states in that region.

While I agree that a Dem nominee from New England is going to have challenges that a nominee from the midwest, south or southwest isn't going to have... presenting your argument the way you did is only going to lead to a bunch of flames.

This post has no value at all other than grabbing attention.

and gotten away with it, no matter who ran. Election fraud has much more visibility now (as an issue), than it did in 2004.

even if he isn't running. :rofl: :boring:

What brought on this thread?

JK isn't running again anyway and BTW, he did get pretty damn close to winning. I think the real reason he didn't make it was due to a poorly run campaign, and some suspicious activity on in OH, rather than the state he was from. I'd like to believe if there were a stellar candidate that emerged from MA in the next 10 years, it'd be worth considering him or her. Kerry could just have well been from any state, and he would been accused of being a wealthy "elitist". Of course, Kerry could actually speak in complete sentences and put together coherent thoughts - something republicans are incapable of doing....

This is flamebait and region bashing.

Oh, and Mondale's from Minnesota.