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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:08 AM
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US Captain: "What's the price of peace? It's probably not as costly as the price of unrest"

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1705939,00.html?xid=rss-world

The U.S. Financial Crisis — in Iraq

The U.S. military in Iraq has been extolling the achievements of its cooperation with civilians in the fight against extremists and insurgents. That mechanism of that cooperation, however, is greased by cash — and the budgetary spigot for it has been tightening in recent months.

That does not sit well for officers like Captain Joel Brown, in charge of Eagle company for the 2-2 Styker Cavalry Regiment. For him, money spent bankrolling the Sunni al-Sahwa ("Awakening") movement is money well spent. Al-Sahwa patrols neighborhoods in his area and effectively works as a local muscle, beating back insurgents and keeping the peace where local law enforcement has long since abandoned. When Brown's company arrived in southern Baghdad in August they found 50 roadside bombs in one day; they would sometime engage in two or three firefights daily. Now he pays nine Sunni contractors to manage 10 checkpoints with about 300 guards, in the process protecting schools, clinics and key intersections 24 hours a day. Soon there will be a total of 1,000 guards.

When these so-called "Concerned Citizens' League" (CLC) programs began, attacks against his men started decreasing. For Brown, the calculus is clear: "Every time we looe one of our guys it costs us $400,000 (in life insurance paid to family members). Each Hellfire missile is $60,000 and we've used a ton of those. What's the price of peace? It's probably not as costly as the price of unrest. Money is my non-lethal ammunition. I'd rather give somebody a job than have to fight them."

That sentiment is echoed by captain David Dehart, a military intelligence officer working with Brown and other commanders in an area of southern Baghdad that used to be a no-go zone for U.S. troops. "A lot of these guys are $50 away from either putting in an IED (roadside bomb) or standing on a checkpoint with an AK" guarding the neighborhood for us, says Dehart.

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And without funds to encourage cooperation, the fragile peace of the last few months may come undone.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:15 AM
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1. He can take up a collection
I'm sure the troops under his command wouldn't have a problem with coming up with the money to keep the status quo? As he said "I'd rather give somebody a job than have to fight them."

Though I was under the impression that paying off an alleged criminal to avoid a confrontation was called a protection racket, and here in the states that kind of thing is often classified as extortion? The last time I checked extortion was against the law, but why worry about legal niceties?
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:24 AM
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2. As I posted at the start of the war and periodically ever since

it will be / would have been MUCH cheaper to have offered every Iraqi man, woman and child something like $10,000 per head, all they have to do is arrive at a border crossing with whatever possessions they might want, sign a document that signs over all real estate to the United States, plus mineral and oil (got to have the oil!) rights, and leave.

25,000,000 X 10,000 = 250,000,000,000. $250 Billion would seem like a bargain now.

And you just know that they would have done it. Shiites, Sunis, Kurds. They all would have left. $50K or $60K per family, over $120K for a typical extended family. Yeah, they all would have left.

All except for Saddam and a few loyal party members.

But no war. We would have been pumping oil for the last 4 years... oil into our own tankers. Fuck OPEC. The empty US territory (pilgrims to shrines welcome back ANYTIME, so long as peaceful) of Iraq.

And after we pumped all the oil out... Give the land back to them.

Iran and Syria would have been much better behaved.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:08 PM
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3. paying for a legacy long enough to blame the Admin that takes over
Moneyed over cooperation was not the definition of victory that was promised.
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