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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:19 PM
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AT&T looking into ways of filtering material on the Internet
AT&T Inc. is still evaluating whether to examine traffic on its Internet lines to stop illegal sharing of copyright material, its chief executive said Wednesday.

CEO Randall Stephenson told a conference at the World Economic Forum that the company is looking at monitoring peer-to-peer file-sharing networks, one of the largest drivers of online traffic but also a common way to illegally exchange copyright files.

"It's like being in a store and watching someone steal a DVD. Do you act?" Stephenson asked.

AT&T has talked about such plans since last summer. They represent a break with the current practice of U.S. Internet service providers, who are shielded by law from liability if their subscribers trade copyright files like movies.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080123/ap_on_hi_te/world_forum_at_t
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:21 PM
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1. I have a sieve and some cheesecloth they can use
Who wants to be that once they figure out how to stop illegal sharing of copyright material, they will go to the government and say, "Since we are watching everything anyway, howz about we cut a deal?"
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:31 PM
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9. Personaly I think that they've already done a deal
And this little move is part of it.

Just one more part of the corporate police state. The government can't spy on you, but it is perfectly legal for corporate America to do so and then sell the information to the government. Isn't capitalism grand?:eyes:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:23 PM
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2. This is such cr@p. BushCo cut a deal with ATT.
Immunity for filtering. Bet me. Welcome to China!
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:24 PM
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5. Don't think bush has anything to do with this
more then likely att cut a deal with the IRAA. Of course you can just see our privacy right die a little more.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:26 PM
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7. I don't think so because most artists know that even the free
if illegal distribution of your work generates income.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:29 PM
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8. B---F**ing-S!!
"But now it’s been revealed by the New York Times that the spying program is vastly bigger
and was directly authorized by president Bush, as he himself has now admitted,..."


See my post below.

:grr:

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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:57 PM
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10. I've always wondered if it was backroom dealings with porn distributors.
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 02:00 PM by blackops
That's copyright material, too. When bushco refuses something, you know there's an evil reason behind it. Bushco needs to protect the children, as well as spy on everyone, and label enemies as sexual predators.

Sex sites get dedicated net home
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4602449.stm

Delay for .xxx 'net sex' domain
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4155568.stm

Bush administration objects to .xxx domains
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-5833764.html

Feds Urge Delay for .XXX Domain
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/news/2005/08/68545

Governments to participate in, not dominate, internet — Cerf
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/rss/CF252B7EAC727AEBCC257148008086A4

ICANN refuses to back down
http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,18693925-15343,00.html

Perspective: Time for a .xxx domain?
http://www.news.com/Time-for-a-.xxx-domain/2010-1028_3-6002925.html

BAUCUS BILL WOULD ESTABLISH NEW .XXX DOMAIN NAME
http://baucus.senate.gov/newsroom/details.cfm?id=252959

XXX Domains May Be Hard Sell
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2001/03/42217

.XXX Domain Name Defeated
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/raskin/10279

E-Mails Suggest Bush Administration Pressured ICANN to Nix '.Xxx' Domain
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196608,00.html
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:59 PM
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11. i never thought about it
but if you wanted to totally protect your computer from sex sights (for children, etc) best way to do it would be just give em their own domain. Heck why not?
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:07 PM
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13. Yes, why not?
Unless you intend to do the opposite, is why not. Bushco refused a proposal by Mike DeWine that would have reduced the standards necessary to obtain a FISA warrant.

White House Dismissed '02 Surveillance Proposal
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/25/AR2006012502270.html

Why refuse a proposal to make it easier to get warrants? Simple. They don't want to get warrants.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:23 PM
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3. how can they stop torrenting?
especially if the file is broken down and zipped? no way you can tell from the data what it is. If you don't label it something stupid like "warezed movie" or something no way they can tell what it is. How are they going to stop random packets being passed from computer to computer?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:03 PM
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12. They can't do that
but they can employ packet sniffers.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:24 PM
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4. Switch to AT&A today, 'tis the company you can trust"
So goes their advertisements.

Soon they'll give us free service just to watch us.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 01:24 PM
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6. What do you mean..."will"?! - They already are!!
:grr:

They’re watching. Sshhhh…

http://midnightresearch.com/pages/category/big-brother/

Here are a couple interesting documents that describe some of the details on the “secret room” at AT&T that was setup for the NSA. The first is one of the original documents that Mark Klein wrote about the secret room. It contains some background, technical details about room and the fiber split, what type of equipment went in the room, where it was, and even some pictures of the entrance. Here is an excerpt from the summary:

I wrote the following document in 2004 when it became clear to me that AT&T, at the behest of the National Security Agency, had illegally installed secret computer gear designed to spy on internet traffic. At the time I thought this was an outgrowth of the notorious “Total Information Awareness” program which was attacked by defenders of civil liberties. But now it’s been revealed by the New York Times that the spying program is vastly bigger and was directly authorized by president Bush, as he himself has now admitted, in flagrant violation of specific statues and Constitutional protections for civil liberties. I am presenting this information to facilitate the dismantling of this dangerous Orwellian project.


Here is one of the pictures of an entrance to the “secret room” at AT&T central office, 611 Folsom St. San Francisco:



More....
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:25 PM
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14. They won't stop until they own all speech. n/t
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