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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:41 PM
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Rep. Nadler: "My personal hope is that the president...will be prosecuted after they leave office"

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=39083&dcn=todaysnews

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Meanwhile, both chambers' Armed Services and foreign affairs committees have pilloried the Bush administration for its handling of the Iraq war, and the Intelligence, Homeland Security, and Judiciary panels have challenged the administration's competence and adherence to the law in running the Justice and Homeland Security departments, the CIA, and other intelligence agencies. "My personal hope is that the president and other members of his administration will be prosecuted after they leave office," said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., chairman of the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties. He believes that the administration has broken the law in pursuit of its anti-terrorism mission.

Targeting all of those areas -- and then some -- is oversight czar Waxman, whose committee has investigated a wide range of federal agencies and private-sector groups over the past year.

Witnesses before his committee have included Valerie Plame, the former CIA agent whose outing led to the prosecution of Vice President Cheney's former chief of staff for obstruction of justice; Blackwater CEO Erik Prince, whose company is under investigation after its security personnel killed Iraqi civilians while on duty; and then-State Department Inspector General Howard Krongard, who resigned after testifying before Waxman.

"We approached our oversight responsibilities this past year, and we're going to continue in the future, on three overarching themes," Waxman said in an interview. "The first was to look at waste, fraud, and abuse of taxpayer dollars; the second is to make sure the government is working for the people; and the third is to hold the government accountable."

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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:42 PM
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1. yes, after? Is there no fucking hope
is being sucked out of us on purpose, is the new debtors prison, otherwise known as the subprime crisis really just a shut the fuck move by the government?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:43 PM
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2. He's not alone. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:43 PM
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3. Dammit all, You, Nadler, could do something about it RTF now!
:grr:
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:48 PM
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4. Rep. Nadler is one the good guys - me thinks the powers above are pressuring him (and others)
to be hush hush re: impeachment
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:51 PM
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7. He's not such a good guy if he's not working in our best interests
concerning this. Why do something later when you can do something now? What will it take? What's at stake?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3151842
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:07 PM
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12. But he knows that this will never happen. This is denial. n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:49 PM
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5. So the lesson here is the executive branch can do anything they want,
while in office, legal or not and not be prosecuted until it's too late. Unless of course it's a Democrat who gets a blowjob.

I certainly wont complain if BushCo is prosecuted after they leave, but the legal precedent will remain that breaking the law while in office is acceptable. That's not good at all.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:49 PM
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6. The advantage of doing it later
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 02:52 PM by Turbineguy
is it does not cripple the US Government now. After 2009 the Government can make Bush's life HELL and on the Government's terms and convenience, not Bush's.

Bush will have no compunction about destroying the country evading the consequences of his crimes which he is in a better position to do as President than as private citizen.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:52 PM
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8. Dick's going to Dubai and Chimpy's headed to Paraguay
do you think they really give a shit what happens after 1.20.2009?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:06 PM
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10. If they DO, it works for me.
Let's just strip them of their Diplomatic Immunity, so if they set FOOT outside of those countries, The Hague gets 'em.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 01:31 AM
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14. ...
:evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 02:59 PM
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9. Until something actually happens,
I maintain that nothing is ever going to touch these thugs. If prosecution were likely, it would have already taken place. I hope I'm surprised, but don't hold out much hope.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 03:06 PM
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11. Remember this?

Congressman John Olver Believes Bush Will Cancel 2008 Elections, Still Refuses to Support Impeaching Him or Cheney
Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2007-07-05 23:29. Congress | Impeachment

By Bob Feuer
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/24358


So many reasons for not supporting impeachment. There ought to be a law.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 04:43 PM
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13. MY personal hope is that these bastards spend the rest of their worthless, misbegotten,
thieving, lying, murderous lives in prison for war crimes and crimes against humanity. I want to see them in one communal cell (and yes, that includes condi) with a single toilet, and a video screen and speakers that, at completely random intervals 24/7 plays the sights and sounds of the dead, dying and wounded in iraq, afghanistan and our gulf states. I also want that cell to be in an area where the people can view them, like animals in a zoo (and it will be the only time in my life I think positively of a zoo)
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