FUCK! The motion to table the Judiciary FISA bill passed 60 ayes, 34 nays.

gateley

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:30 PM
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FUCK! The motion to table the Judiciary FISA bill passed 60 ayes, 34 nays.

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DURHAM D

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:34 PM
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1. Do you have info on who did not vote? n/t

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gateley

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:39 PM
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4. Not yet -- it'll be posted on the senate site later (don't know how long a

delay there is).

I DO know that Obama and Hillary weren't there, but in all fairness, their votes wouldn't have made a difference.

I wonder what the excuse is for OTHER Dems. :grr:

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EricinMD

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Thu Jan-24-08 03:50 PM
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10. Mikulski Disastrous Vote!

I am not sure about Ben Cardin, I assume he voted to protect the U.S. Constitution, but I know that our turncoat pseudo Republican Barbara Mikulski voted with the criminals and liars! I am sick to my stomach, I talked to her "aide" and he confirmed her vote to allow immunity for the telecom companies. It is beyond disgusting!

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wtmusic

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:34 PM
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2. We still have the version with Leahy's amendment as an option, no? nt

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gateley

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:45 PM
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6. I'm just desperately trying to figure this out today. I THINK the hope was that

if this passed everything would be fine -- this would REPLACE the current FISA law.

Hell, it didn't even make it to a VOTE.

Now, I THINK that both Dodd and Lehey have amendments, and I also heard that Rockefeller does, too. :

It's my understanding that Dodd's amendment will not include immunity.

It's my understanding that Lehey's amendment offers something a little different - not sure what.

Rockefeller's on now, so we'll hear what he has to say.

Bottom line is I think we're stuck with the law as is, but are hopeful one of the amendments excluding immunity will pass.

THIS is what I think Dodd was talking about filibustering.

And again, I could be totally wrong about all this.

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Winterblues

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:35 PM
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3. I think that is good, isn't it?

There doesn't need to be any fillibuster now and Reid can go to Davos and think about it a bit.

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gateley

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:47 PM
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7. I don't know -- but I heard Reid saying on Tuesday that he wants to

"wrap up" FISA this week. Have no idea how that affects all this stuff.

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bdamomma

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:41 PM
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5. hey you guys join us here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2757193&mesg_id=2757193

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gateley

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Thu Jan-24-08 02:49 PM
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8. Thanks Alyce -- see you there!

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sinkingfeeling

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Thu Jan-24-08 03:23 PM
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9. One changed vote would have saved it. Let's all thank the 'Dems' who voted to table by throwing them

out of office!

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VP505

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Thu Jan-24-08 04:20 PM
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11. Here is a list of the Dems

Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 04:21 PM by vpilot

who voted to kill the Judicery Comittee Bill and those who did not vote:

Bayh (D-IN), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Inouye (D-HI), Yea
Mikulski (D-MD), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Clinton (D-NY)Not Voting
Obama (D-IL)Not Voting

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TwilightGardener

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Thu Jan-24-08 04:21 PM
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12. Clinton, Obama, McCain--tsk tsk tsk.

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sinkingfeeling

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Thu Jan-24-08 04:39 PM
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16. Wonder why Johnson voted to table?

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Winterblues

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Thu Jan-24-08 04:26 PM
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13. Does anyone here know what it means to table a bill?

It means it doesn't get passed. It means they put it on lay away until a later date. Why is everyone so worked up over them tabling this bill?

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Javaman

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Thu Jan-24-08 04:28 PM
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14. once it's tabled it's not open to debate. nt

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aikoaiko

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Thu Jan-24-08 04:29 PM
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15. In general, tabling means no action can be taken until there is a motion to bring it back

But they can bring it back fast and vote, or not bring it back ever.

Its just in limbo.

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