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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:26 PM
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Krugman is for free trade. Hartmann is against it. That puts me in a quandary
I respect both of their opinions on almost everything. Is the issue too big & complex to sort out? My schooling is in math, not economics. It looks from my vantage point like NAFTA and GATT have destroyed the middle class, which was the best thing about the 20th Century in America. But Krugman swears it's the right thing to do.

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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:27 PM
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1. Gotta go with Hartmann.....we have seen enough damage from NAFTA.
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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:29 PM
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2. Ignore Krugman and go with your own gut. Just walk around
any store in this country and see the crap that is out there.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:30 PM
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3. Just a note --Krugman has admitted that the Free Trade
Policies are not working and has written on instances and reasons
why.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:31 PM
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4. I thought Hartmann was for FAIR trade.
I heard him talk about this issue the other day, and said he was not against free trade, but is against the way it is being practiced now, because it's not fair trade.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:38 PM
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5. Hartmann is right.
By right, I mean the position that supports labor against corporate exploitation. Fair trade, not free trade. Any trade agreements have to have the conditions of worker and environmental rights. We have to treat products made in developing countries the same way we would if they were made here. No sweat shops, no pollution or other environmental degradation.

Krugman is right about a lot of things but that isn't one of them. I think he's middle of the road. Hartman is a progressive.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:44 PM
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6. Hartmann. Not only is he right, he explains it in a breathtakingly simple way
The Free Traders have to resort to all kinds of convoluted flummery to sell their theories. Only most of us aren't buying it anymore.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:46 PM
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7. did you know that in 10 years Human trafficking will overtake drugs
as the biggest illegal enterprise? Slavery is the reason why I'm against free trade.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:46 PM
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8. Not complex at all.
Link, perchance?
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:56 PM
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9. Look at it this way,
when it takes 4000 pages to delineate and a team of lawyers to decipher, how free can it be?
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