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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:35 AM
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Battle over invisible pet fences: Don't Startle me Bro
Unseen Fences Upset the Unsuspecting
Chevy Chase Enclave Might Regulate Electronic Pet Barriers

To some suburbanites, good fences don't make such good neighbors when you can't see them.

That's the issue facing the Town Council of Somerset, an incorporated enclave within Chevy Chase, which will consider next month regulating the placement of invisible electronic dog fences. The devices confine pets to their home turf with a low-wattage cable buried along the perimeter of a yard.

The proposal would require setbacks of at least three feet from sidewalks and 14 feet from curbs without sidewalks.

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The community is just one of several in the country that have taken regulatory notice of the systems, which are becoming more common in tightly packed suburban neighborhoods. Albuquerque, for example, has banned them, and Louisville allows them only for dogs that have been spayed or neutered.

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It was frightening for Somerset resident Alison Fortier, who was walking her Labrador retriever along Dorset Avenue last year when two barking dogs suddenly came running from behind a nearby house. With no owner, chain or fence in sight, the animals charged toward Fortier with, as far as she could see, nothing to stop them.

The dogs pulled up short, right at the edge of the sidewalk, Fortier said. But not before sparking a barking lunge from her lab that nearly pulled Fortier off her feet.

Washington Post


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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:40 AM
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1. fence
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 09:41 AM by mbergen
I know I'm always really worried when I walk by the neighbors house with my dog because theirs goes just up to the sidewalk. We always walk in the street instead when the dogs are out. The dogs are alot bigger than my dog and they always run up barking. I don't think people should put them right up to the sidewalk - at least put a couple feet back so their dogs don't scare people and maybe have a sign that there's an invisible fence so people know their dogs aren't going to attack them.

Meg
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:53 AM
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2. Glad to see some areas thinking about banning them.
Around here, the tonier neighborhoods don't allow physical fences so people with dogs have the undergrounds. They don't, however, stop a truly determined dog (after a female in heat, a squirrel or other game or just really wanting to roam) from leaving the yard. They will stop the same dog from returning. They don't stop other animals, including stray dogs or those allowed to run free from entering the yard. They don't stop human beings bound on harming or stealing your animal.

And you have to keep up with the batteries in the special collar. Someone here on DU posted about a border collie they knew who would go up to the point where the collar warns before shocking, lay down and let it keep warning until the batteries were empty, then go have fun.

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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:42 AM
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9. It figures it was a border collie.
They are sometimes so smart it's amazing.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:56 AM
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10. Nutty Things
Exclusive neighborhoods that ban fences seem more about "look at me! I'm rich!" Strikes me as silly. Old money, otoh, wants its privacy.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 12:36 PM
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12. Ban fences
can't put up a clothesline, dictate what you can drive, what you can set in your front yard. You couldn't get me to live in one of those places for any amount of money.

A friend of mine bought a house in one of those places. They got a ticket for cardboard boxes sitting on their lawn...while they were moving in. She said if their old house hadn't sold she'd have had everything put back on the truck and gone back there. The whole family has been miserable since (kids aren't allowed a basketball hoop or a soccer cage and swingsets are only allowed with neighborhood approval) but are now stuck.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:02 PM
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13. Ouch
I guess it would be cold of me to say she should have read the neighborhood covenant before signing on the dotted line.

Too bad she didn't walk away from the deal.





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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:40 PM
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15. Probably as I would have been...naive
To the point of not even considering that your neighbors could decide what you can drive or that you can't dry your sheets out on the line and save electricity.

She would have walked away from it if their old house hadn't already sold and closed. They had no place else to go.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:03 AM
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3. The nut that lives next door to me is using one on her 100 pound doberman
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 10:04 AM by NNN0LHI
Power goes out a lot where I live. No power means no fence.

If this beast comes over here and hurts someone I am going to sue her until she is penniless.

Don
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:38 AM
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8. Hopefully,
her Doberman is as gentle and friendly as those I've had the honor to know in the past, should that ever happen.

Do the chargers have a backup battery system?

Personally, I'd rather have a fence. The last time I lived in town, I had a fence around the perimeter of the property. Not all residential neighborhoods allow fenced front yards, though.

Perhaps, if there is an effort to ban the "invisible" fence, there should be an effort to ALLOW the physical fence.

I really liked knowing that I could lock my front gate, and that no one had access to my yard or door when I didn't want to "receive" visitors. It also made dealing with the inevitable JW roamers easier. I'd just lock the gate when they came to canvass the neighborhood.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 11:02 AM
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11. No this is more the snarling, growling and teeth showing type of dobe one finds in junk yards
Unfortunately.

Don
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:11 PM
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14. Be careful, a fence like that WILL NOT STOP a DOG that size IF he wants to get to you!!
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 04:41 PM
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16. Absolutely.
As I said upthread, some dogs will take the 'hit' to get out but won't take it to get back in.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:05 AM
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4. I have an invisible fence around my fenced in backyard
that keeps our ADHD/OCD Cocker mix from jumping the fence and out of my vegetable garden. I figure the invisible fence and collar have likely saved his life from being run over.

Only an idiot for a dog owner would run their invisible fence up to the sidewalk in front of the house and allow their dogs to charge people walking by. If people are too stupid to know better there ought to be a law.
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MichellesBFF Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:12 AM
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5. I have the opposite problem
A neighbor who has an invisible fence, who has never bothered to train his dog to use it, (it was there when they bought the house), so that his dog comes onto my land all of the time. He's large and aggressive and he poops (seems to be exclusively) on our property.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:13 AM
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6. Fences should be two-way...
...keeping assholes and children out. My dogs aren't particularly vicious, and I'd be more worried about the jerks of the world being able to mess with them.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:24 AM
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7. It didn't work on Captain Kirk


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