How Hillary or Obama will win in the fall

If the nominee is Romney, the task will be easy. The Democrat will show off his/her vastly superior grasp of policy and highlight Romney's history of flip-flopping on key issues. Then, he/she will go in for the kill by talking about how Mitt made his money. Given that Mitt lacks the personal charm and wit of the guy he wants to be compared to (Reagan), Mitt won't be able to overcome his past as a corporate raider and his lack of preparation.

If McCain is the nominee, the task will be harder. McCain is a good American, a hero and a well-respected statesman. BUT, he has a problem: the war and his stupidly hawkish stance regarding the Middle East. The Democrat will only have to do one thing: make the election into a referendum on the Iraq war. Take the focus away from McCain and put it on his position on the war and he's beaten. 100 years in Iraq? NOBODY wants that.

lost the GE with that one quote.

He has made so many crazy ones lately?

But then was the one where he promised us lots more wars too. :scared:

I think the election will be a referendum on the war.

I, also, think that the economy will be a issue that swings in the Dems favor.

I think no matter what they throw at us, this is a Democratic year.


The only caveat would be some type of attack especially in the US.
Then McCain would have the edge.

Republicans are the ones who keep saying "Bush has kept you safe since 9/11", blah blah.....I think an attack on the US would definitely NOT be an edge for any Republican...

Republicans have cornered the terror market....If there's no attack, they say "we kept you safe"...If there's an attack, then there like "we need a leader who has military experience" (a la McCain)....

Logically that is what you would think. But they would start to scare the voters with Democratic "weakness on defense" shit.

and mccain is the nominee....scary scenario

to the Republicans. If the Dem is tough, prepared, and level headed, they could increase their standing, while the Repub is likely to go way over the top with war rhetoric. Additionally, you're talking about a successful attack which happens under a sitting R administration that's been blowing hot air about how much safer we are with them running the show. Given all the posturing about security that has gone on for the last 6 years, another attack would be devastating to their credibility.

The biggest problem IMO would be how to campaign during a time of national crisis. People expect their leaders to make a show of unity in a time like that, and even a whiff of partisan nastiness could make the one doing it look treasonous.

and we shall never stop hammering away that 9/11 happened on a Republican watch. and the clinton presidency wasn't about scaring americas to even fly planes, and tell us whether our safety was red yellow blue or whatever

He takes occasional trips to D.C. where he knows some (Rethugs, I presume). He was wrong both in 2000 and 2004, saying the Dems were a shoo-in for the former and "It's KERRY's to lose" in the latter, though maybe not so wrong about KERRY.

At least I got him to stop calling Senator CLINTON a bitch. I accomplished this by asking whether he called THATCHER and MEIR that, and asking what the equivalent for "tough man" was for women.

For my own part, I believe racism is SO into the DNA that neither Whites nor Hispanics will vote for a Black. The media yakkers have harped all day that Ted KENNEDY's "ties to Latinos" will help OBAMA. Nope. A Hispanic DUer posted here a couple of weeks ago that "Nope" was the answer among all of her Hispanic acquaintances, and she was promptly sat-upon and condescended-to for telling her truth. This was borne out in Texas when the excellent candidate, mayor of Dallas, Ron KIRK, didn't get a boom from Hispanics. He would have won if the normal Hispanic Dem vote had come through.


This was the wingnut's response to the KENNEDYs' endorsements.


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She's still ahead nationally and tough and dedicated.

I don't want to cause a heart attack or a stroke, but the next President will be a Republican. albeit a non-George Bush type.

She cannot be elected--too divisive. And her /their attacks on Obama revealed to regular folks just how ugly they can be in their entitledness. He doesn't deserve it. HE is too green. Change. OK, to what? From what I can see he arrives at the same place as she does but the journey is different.

I just think that voters will not want her if she is the nominee and he will be seen as too inexperienced.

If she is the nominee, I would bet black people will feel they've been done to again. I wouldn't count on too enthusiastic support from regular folks.

We'll get a Republican and most everyone will be unhappy with the choice. But I gotta warn you, I haven't had my meds today, so I may not be thinking clearly.

I also take a perverse pleasure in watching any of the political classes in a roil.

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McCain just looks like he doesn't have any energy anymore. He's stiff and wooden and foggy. 72 is the age most people retire, not assume the most difficult and stressful job in the world. The comparison of McCain vs Hillary or Obama will be very evident.

add to it "the jobs aren't coming back." Just for good measure. And a cherry on top.

That gets the economy, and foreign policy in just two sentences.

Needs to be said, read, and spread - everywhere. EVERYWHERE. OVER AND OVER.