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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:38 PM
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Gloom and doomers, we need to stay focused on the larger picture...
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 03:53 PM by Atman
Americans HATE the Republican Party right now, and are extremely unlikely to vote for any Republican in November for any post for any reason. Sure, some will win re-election to their school boards and House seats, but without wholesale election fraud, Republicans simply cannot win in November. Never mind Rasmussen polls or MSNBC trying to drum up ratings by keeping the idea of a horse race alive. It's simply not the case. All the historical analysis shows that we are in for a monumental win. People are hurting, people are tired of the Bush family and they are tired of the war, and they are tired of being lied to. And they know they've been lied to.

Now, all that said, there is still the very real possibility of election fraud on the part of the GOP. And even if you don't believe that, consider the roll of the GOP-backed/backing media, who just did a boffo job of ignoring John Edwards into oblivion. They know the value of a "razor thin" margin and what a horse race does for their ratings/profits. If they reported to you that it was a runaway lock for the Democrat, ANY Democrat, would you really bother to tune in to hear them blather on and on about it? Of course not. We watch their bullshit for the same reason we watch an exciting do-or-die playoff game. It's exciting. Take away that excitement by virtue of a sure-thing win for ANY candidate and they lose viewers faster than Britney loses kids.

The media is manipulating this for their own gain. Just look at the explosive crazy graphics and Fox Sports-style graphics the Cabal News Networks are employing to spice up their coverage and hold our interest. This is BIG business for them, and therefore you can be absolutely certain that after they've officially anointed McCain and Clinton as our only choices, it will STILL be a virtual 50-50 tie running running right up until election day. Just like every election since BushCo installed Diebold machines across the nation and stopped any real exit polling. Didn't you ever ask yourself how this came to be, these always-razor-thin margins, despite the popularity or lack thereof of the candidates running? Because it keeps us hooked, just like any good ol' fashioned sports rivalry does. They've learned how to herd us, and we moo along every time.

But don't buy it. Don't despair. Just get all your friends to come with you to the polls, bring your grandma, bring every Democrat you know an lock your republican relatives in the attic (where the crazies belong anyway). We'll do fine in November. Just keep fighting the good fight. After all, we're simply better than them. We always have been.

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:46 PM
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1. The bigger picture includes voting for ALL Dems on the down-ballot.
US Senate
House of Representatives
Governor/Lt Gov
State Senator
State Assembly
DA's
Secretaries of State (the vote protectors)
County Executives
City/Town/Village boards

Etc.

If, despite our best efforts, a Republikkkan wins the WH, getting Dem super-majorities in the House and Senate will make life fucking hell for him, and he'll wish he stayed back home.

:kick:
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:48 PM
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2. Excellent point. Thanks for adding!
I don't care what the office is, we need a total Dem sweep, nothing less. We need to make the GOP completely irrelevant in day-to-day decision making in government.

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:50 PM
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3. Absolute perfection! K&R!
Thanks, Atman!

(BTW: Luckily, I don't have any Republican relatives - which means my attic is available to anyone who needs the extra space!)

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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:14 PM
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4. If it had not been you who started this thread, I wouldn't have bothered
to even click on it.
Having said that, I guess that you are scraping up whatever hope is left and trying to come up with some kind of plan.
I mean, fuck, it's the only chance we have.

But, on our side, the only choice now is between a DLC corporatist and a closet conservative who gives flowery
uplifting speeches that really don't say anything at all.

i remember saying that if Reagan was elected, I was leaving the country. But, i got married and had a kid so I didn't.

I said the same about bush, but I had just gotten remarried and bought my first house.

If McCain gets in, I swear I will get out of here if I have to sneak across the Mexican border with only the clothes on my back.

I put in 16 hrs a day at the 7 days a week at the local dem HQ in '04.

Right now, i just don't think I can get it up this time

but, thanks for your take

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:18 PM
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6. Start packing then- I predict McCain/Leiberman as our new puppets.
Hate to say it, but it's sure looking that way.
By the way, I'll be right behind you on the exit.

BHN
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:26 PM
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10. Well, it would play into the media-control theory
McCain-Lieberman would allow the media to play this as a big "healing" and bi-partisan ticket featuring a prominent former Dem Veep candidate and the Clintons. It's pretty compelling, I have to agree.

I just don't know if America is going to fall for this shit anymore. McCain is largely despised by most of the GOP. But we'll see, won't we?

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:30 PM
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12. McCain just added him to his entourage...
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 04:30 PM by BeHereNow
And yes, wouldn't it just seal the "bi-partisan" unity fairy tale.
Everyone needs to think very carefully about those two
whack jobs inheriting all the executive order powers
from the current lunatic in power.

BHN


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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:18 PM
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7. Start packing then- I predict McCain/Leiberman as our new puppets.
Hate to say it, but it's sure looking that way.
By the way, I'll be right behind you on the exit.

BHN
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:18 PM
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8. head north, not south.
that's our plan, anyway.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:20 PM
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9. McCain is fracturing the GOP the way Clinton fractures the Dems
They can't stand him. Which works to our advantage if only because they are supremely less motivated than we are. Of course, a Hillary candidacy will help motivate the GOP, but I don't know a single republican who even claims they're a republican anymore. (R) has become a scarlet letter. They've screwed up everything, and everyone but the Fox News and those nasty freeper sites realize it.

I really do feel what you're saying. I'm obviously trying to be upbeat, although my guts are bleeding today after having dropped my absentee ballot for Edwards into the box not even 24 hours ago. But what we'll win is much larger than an Oval Office with pink drapes...we'll win a repudiation of Republican policies. Maybe after we actually have some power, we can use it to influence the lilly-livered fraidy cat Dems wasting space in Washington.

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:17 PM
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5. they may hate the republican party- but they also hate hillary...
and a lot of them aren't too fond of blacks.

it's going to be an interesting year, one way or the other.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:26 PM
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11. K&R
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:32 PM
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13. K & R
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:35 PM
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14. The bigger picture is that this country is staying right-of-center
There's your bigger picture...

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