I am getting really pumped about the thought of McCain winning the Repig primaries

He appears to have more skeletons in his closets than Jeffrey Dahmer and I don't think we have scratched the surface yet.

To be honest I was getting really worried about the ultra-secretive Romney with his money and his Madame Tussauds Wax Museum looks (Reagan had the same look) which the Repig voters seem to like.

This is starting to look like a Bob Dole redux.

Don

And given McCain's infamous temper, it won't take too much prodding from our side to get him showing his nasty side to the voters.

Doing all he can to keep the temper in check. He's bound to blow a gasket before November, though.

Even Hillary could beat him, AND the GOP establishment would go into meltdown if he won the nomination. Double the fun. Doesn't look like he's going to win, though. Shame.

He will attract the ultra conservative vote.

I find it hard to imagine McCain choosing Huckabee as his running mate. But maybe he will want a conservative VP to balance out his appeal to moderate and independent voters, I dunno.

the FReepers hate him. Claim he's too liberal.

...would have to beat McCain in Ohio and Florida. The last several presidential cycles have come down to two out of three among Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. This will be no different.

Pennsylvania went for Kerry by one percentage point and given the choice between McCain and Hillary, I'm not sure the Dems would carry it.

If Mac and Hillary are the nominees, this is the scenario we are likely to find ourselves in.

The two candidates aren't that far apart. They could almost run on same ticket.

I have this nightmare vision of them both picking Joe Lieberman as their running mate, so that the contest is McCain-Lieberman vs. Clinton-Lieberman. Can that legally happen?

romney is dull witted and a mormon. and huckabee is insane.

the pukes have nothing and they know it but they will never admit it.

should help seal the deal - and his fate.

:evilgrin:

With Bush grinning like the Cheshire Cat?

Don

n/t

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/john_mccain_match_ups/election_2008_mccain_vs_clinton_and_obama

Election 2008: McCain vs. Clinton and Obama
McCain Leads Obama by Six, Clinton by Eight
Wednesday, January 30, 2008


The latest Rasmussen Reports survey of Election 2008 shows Republican frontrunner Senator John McCain with single-digit leads over Democratic Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. McCain now leads Clinton 48% to 40%. He leads Barack Obama 47% to 41%.

he is being sold as a moderate

To off balance that we have the Clinton haters from the 1990's who still are banging the drum

and of course those that have problems with Obama for various reasons

It is going to be a very difficult election

Our best hope is that mccain chooses huckabee as his vp, but most likely it will be thompson

:thumbsup:

But let's not do the "it's going to be a cakewalk" stuff, please. I don't think it will be as easy as it may seem.

I still think we'll win, no matter who the nominee is. It just won't be that easy.

Our fellow Americans do love a tough talker, and his anti-torture and anti-terror stance could have traction.
He is more moderate and sensible than the others on many issues. He could pull some 'minority' votes because he's been tolerant and involved in immigration reform.
He is probably viewed as one of the most anti-Bush Republicans of the past 7 years, which could pull some centerist votes who are sick of Bush, but hesitant to go Dem.
Plus he's been a familiar name for a long time, and I think less likely to fumble the campaign should he get the nomination.
All the GOPers are white males, and I truly fear the American masses when they get in the booth and must pull the lever for a black guy or a female. I can only hope we've come far enough, but we all know that will swing some votes.
Far right voters are going with him, even if this base is not 'invigorated.' The question is how the center votes.

ANd he is already fumbling and mumbling and trying to pretend he is the same man he was in 2000. He ain't.

because he went against Bush on a few issues. The media loves him, and he's really pretty conservative overall.

Will the media suddenly turn on him and start questioning all his flip-flops, his bad temper, his insult of Chelsea Clinton & Janet Reno, his warmongering?

As soon as Kerry emerged as the nominee in 2004, Bush immediately went on the air and labeled his opponent a flip-flopper.

Every Republican in the nation - from the White House to everybody in cable news and on talk radio, to local Republicans running for positions in small towns - then followed suit and start repeating the "flip-flopper" mantra and it stuck to Kerry from the beginning.

If we wait until August, it will be too late and it will allow McCain & the media to define him.

Who sold out to chimpy and his wars.

and, when we target him, we need to have one or two consistent themes.

In 2004, our side ran a bunch of fantastic attack ads against Bush, but they were all over the map:
Iraq - mismanagement
Iraq - lies about WMD
the deficit
the environment
not catching bin Laden
tax cuts for the rich

If we had one or two consistent themes to tie them all together, it would have been much more effective.

for "they are just anti-b*sh*

"They are against him and don't have any plans of their own."

Keep It Simple. There is plenty to work with.

George W Bush in a John McCain costume.

and other gems. Keep 'em coming, McCain!

the RW- they will vote for a hamsandwich ( and just did twice) to stay in power. For more on the polls and a thread about it:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...

It's frightening but Macnut is ahead, in most head to head polls vs. ANY Dem.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2796550


We must get out the vote and back our nominee this year.

He's going to go over like a turd in a punchbowl.

Even the Repigs don't like him.

Don

Here's a gift that could keep giving.



Here's a dude who has backed all the worst of the boosh regime...went from being a "maverick" to a kiss-ass. He's long lost the "independent" and straight talk bullshit and it's sure not having the desired effect in the Repugnican hive. Hate radio is all in a twitter about him being the nominee and it'll be fun to listen to a frustrated Rushbo or Hannity as their corrupt party continues to eat itself alive.

The other day I made the Dole reference...and for another reason. Age. This elongated primary season looks like it's taking a lot of the energy out of a 71 year old man. He looks tired and his goofy answers are as much a symptom of fatigue as it is just being goofy. It seems like all he sees is winning the nomination and isn't looking beyond...where he'll be cash-strapped and fighting snipping on his own flanks far worse than either Obama or Clinton would from the Democrats.

Finally, the last shoe hasn't dropped here...and that's Ron Paul. I expect him to bolt into third-party land...maybe even join forces with a Nader (who I also expected would slither into this campaign) and further dilute and divide the GOOP vote.

Magoo does look a like like Dole '96...but the undercard is sure looking more like 1932.

Give him the nomination and then let there be another attack like 9/11 before the election. Don't sit there and think that anything the Republican's toss out there is dead meat. They could revitilize in a heartbeat and with the lack-luster pair we have left in the running you better hope for a weak Republican - not one who has shown his ability to survive and thrive in the world of Politics.

Many "moderates" and independents have taken a shine to him. In some ways, Bush's horrid behavior to him in 2000 has helped him there. His war story helps, too.

I think he sold any possible integrity that might have still attached to him when he threw his lot in with Bush, and I DO NOT want to face the possibility of him in the WH. But a lot of people I've spoken to are rather well-inclined toward him. And in a Clinton-McCain matchup, Clinton doesn't come out well around many of the people I hear up here.

There's nothing to really draw people to Romney. He's boring as hell, as does not speak or perform well. His record in MA is less than stellar. He's weird. I think he'd be far easier to beat.

And I'm thinking if we're going to win, we have to win in margins to exceed the inevitable cheating.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2796550