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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:45 AM
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Iraq death toll 'OVER ONE MILLION'
Source: Al Jazeera

Iraq death toll 'over one million'



More than one million Iraqis have died as a result of the conflict started by the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, according to a new survey by a UK polling group.

The report was followed by more violence on Thursday, with five people killed and eight injured in a bomb blast in the Kazimiyah neighbourhood of Baghdad, the Iraqi capital.

The survey, conducted by UK-based Opinion Research Business (ORB), found that 20 per cent of people in Iraq had experienced at least one death in their household as a result of the conflict, rather than natural causes.

The survey consisted of face-to-face interviews with 2,414 adults.
The last complete census in Iraq conducted in 1997 found 4.05 million households in the country, a figure ORB used to calculate that approximately 1.03 million people had died as a result of the war.

The margin of error in the survey, conducted in August and September 2007, was 1.7 per cent, giving a range of deaths from 946,258 to 1.12 million people. The research covered 15 of Iraq's 18 provinces.

..cont'd





Read more: http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/9AFAB89C-4313-4861-B592-FEFD4328F1DD.htm
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:17 AM
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1. Well, I just found out you can't put a million commas in a thread.
I tried, though. I tried.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:23 AM
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2. Odd - the OP from Al Jazeera is dated Jan. 31, 2008 but this story originally surfaced in 2007

What's up with that?

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-iraq14sep14,1,1207545.story?coll=la-news-a_section&ctrack=1&cset=true

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/14/3839/


U.S. Media Ignores Estimate of 1 Million Iraqi Deaths
Posted August 14, 2007 | 01:06 PM (EST)

Yesterday a radio interviewer in South Africa asked me what had been the response of the "mainstream media in the United States" to Just Foreign Policy's ongoing estimate of the Iraqi death toll from the U.S. invasion and occupation, which on Thursday crossed the one million mark...cont'd

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/us-media-ignores-estima_b_60396.html

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This is murder pure and bloody simple. Iraq did not invade us, and I'm certain that the majority of the dead are civilians. Can you say genocide?!!! Who needs nuclear weapons when you have ongoing slaughter with the apparent approval of multiple nations!
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:01 PM
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9. But it needs to resurface now to make it the latest survey.
That's how it works: The most recent survey counts, old ones go stale.

The next-to-most-recent survey was based on 5x as many people and was done after this one. It found a lower number of dead than this one. But it's stale now, growing moldy, so we have to dig out another survey. Anyway, it didn't come up with as high a figure, and bigger is always better.

:sarcasm:
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 02:36 AM
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3. Bombs Away Over Iraq - Who Cares?
Bombs Away Over Iraq - Who Cares?




By Tom Engelhardt

A January 21 Los Angeles Times Iraq piece by Ned Parker and Saif Rasheed led with an inter-tribal suicide bombing at a gathering in Fallujah in which members of the pro-American Anbar Awakening Council were killed. ("Asked why one member of his Albu Issa tribe would kill another, Aftan compared it to school shootings that happen in the United States.") Twenty-six paragraphs later, the story ended this way:
The US military also said in a statement that it had dropped 19,000 pounds <8,600 kilograms> of explosives on the farmland of Arab Jabour south of Baghdad. The strikes targeted buried bombs and weapons caches. In the last 10 days, the military has dropped nearly 100,000 pounds of explosives on the area, which has been a gateway for Sunni militants into Baghdad.

And here's paragraph 22 of a 34-paragraph January 22 story by Stephen Farrell of the New York Times:
The threat from buried bombs was well known before the operation. To help clear the ground, the military had dropped nearly 100,000 pounds of bombs to destroy weapons caches and IEDs .
Farrell led his piece with news that an American soldier had died in Arab Jabour from an IED that blew up "an MRAP, the new Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected armored vehicle that the American military is counting on to reduce casualties from roadside bombs in Iraq".

Note that both pieces started with bombing news - in one case a suicide bombing that killed several Iraqis; in another a roadside bombing that killed an American soldier and wounded others. But the major bombing story of these past days - those 45,000 kilograms or so of explosives that US planes dropped in a small area south of Baghdad - simply dangled unexplained off the far end of the Los Angeles Times piece; while in the New York Times it was buried inside a single sentence.

..cont'd

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JB01Ak02.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:19 AM
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4. Saddam never killed that many in his whole life.
Most of those people would be alive if we had left their cruel dictator alone. A lesson in the smug morality of invasion because the ruler is evil. By those standards, pretty much anyone is entitled to invade us.

THE WORLD IS NOT BETTER OFF WITHOUT SADDAM HUSSEIN.
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I work for workers Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:32 PM
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12. Just for the record, Saddam's rule lead to the deaths of at least two million people,
both in his nation and those he invaded.
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:44 AM
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5. K&R
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:06 AM
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6. Iraq's preinvasion poulation was 26 Million. In a press conference bush and allawi cited 25 Million.
So they know. They just won't put in those terms of we killed 1 million Iraqis. But that would form a public confession to genocide. 400,000 have been killed in Darfur and that is being called Genocide. So this is definately Genocide in Iraq. Even our alli Belgium has officially accused of genocide in Iraq.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:27 AM
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7. Don't expect a discussion on
M$M. The only surge working in Bush's clusterfuck is the surge to the grave.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 06:43 AM
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8. Yet one still hears various "experts" use the "tens of thousands" figure
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:23 PM
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11. N = < 4000 Population 27 million
stratification of sample unknown. This is not a "body count" but a number extrapolated from a survey.

Just be sure you understand how the number came to exist.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:18 PM
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10. Mans inhumanity to man. For what?
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:33 PM
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13. K&R n/t
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