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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:52 AM
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Will * withhold documents from the next administration?
Will he claim "state secrets" as the reason for the next President not having access to some files? Lets face it, the only reason that most of these things are "state secrets" is because they will have evidence in them on just how complicit this administration is.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:53 AM
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1. He can't
He is no longer president
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:55 AM
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3. True, but I wonder if he will take those things with him
He has a year to get the evidence out of the WH. Or he could have a convenient fire like Cheney did. How much do you want to bet that the notes on the secret energy committee were burned in that fire?
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:17 AM
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13. He can't delete emails either, unless he does it before he leaves office.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:53 AM
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2. self delete
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 07:54 AM by Uben
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:56 AM
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4. Executive Order 13233 that was written under Bush
Allows former Presidents to declare records classified.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 07:59 AM
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5. From the public yes. But everything should be shared with the next administration.
At least in the grown-up world, thats the way it should be.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:10 AM
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7. Can't the next president write an Executive Order recending 13233?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:12 AM
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8. I believe so
The question is, will he or she do it?
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:18 AM
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9. Next president can reverse it nt
nt
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:07 AM
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6. *Self-delete for bad taste*
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 08:09 AM by Sadie4629
n/t
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 08:29 AM
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10. Depends on who is elected
If Hillary wins, he'll give her the evidence to sweep under the rug like Bill did for Poppy.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:13 AM
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11. I believe Obama will do the same thing. I don't think that either
Democratic candidate will pursue investigations of Bush or undo many of his "rules" - just those whose undoing will make a good show...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:17 AM
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12. You mean those documents that haven't been shredded?
I mean..."lost"

I'm sure Bush and Cheney both have made plans for any documents that might still exist that could incriminate them.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:24 AM
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14. Will the next administration reverse Bush's decisions on secrecy? This should be an R issue!
Someone please ask the R candidates if they will reverse anything Bush has done on secrecy? What else will they reverse?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:27 AM
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15. Documents? *Zzzzzzownt!*
What documents? *Nyyeeeaaaawaaaaawaan!*

"Rosemary, call Office Depot and have them send over another couple of heavy duty shredders!"

Even if a judge orders this corrupt administration to preserve its papers and electronic documents, they'll risk the 90 days in jail for disobeying the order, since the penalty they'd be liable to if everything came out would be far more substantial. Same thing as happened to the torture videotapes that were destroyed. Obstruction of justice is far preferable to crimes against humanity.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:37 AM
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16. Of course he will. Those that 'must' be kept and not fed into the shredder.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:43 AM
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17. In January 2009 there will be hundreds of computers with new hard drives.




Maybe even thousands. All the old HDD's will have been destroyed by that time.

BushCo will say they were all 'upgraded' but it will have been done to destroy evidence.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:47 AM
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18. No need to.
The next administration will be doing the same things as * so they have no interest in exposing the crimes of 2001-2008.

Republican or Democrat, they will assist in suppressing the truth.

Did Gotti expose the crimes of Castellano? I think not.
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