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fencesitter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:15 AM
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Question for Massachusetts folks
I'm sure this has been asked before but, How in the world did Romney become governer in such a deep blue state? I'm supposing the Mitt we see now is not the Mitt you had?
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:18 AM
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1. i dont want to talk about it.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:19 AM
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2. MA Democrats have had a habit of nominating some very poor candidates
Romney is no fluke. He was preceded by three GOP governors.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:22 AM
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3. The national party, too n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:26 AM
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4. Several factors played into Mitt's hands.
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 09:36 AM by Tesha
Several factors played into Mitt's hands:

o Massachusetts, because it is a very Democratic-leaning place,
has often balanced their monolithically-Democratic legislature
with a Republican Governor. Frank Sargeant, Bill Weld, Paul
Cellucci, and then acting-governess Jane Swift. And Ed King
was a very conservative Democrat. Mike Dukakis was practically
the only liberal in the bunch.

o This is facilitated by loonies like Barbara Anderson and
her CLT, Citizens for Limited Taxation. They are a classical
right-wing "We've got ours, screw everyone else!" bunch of
rich twits, but they have a disproportionately loud voice
in Massachusetts, being strongly supported by the media
as they are.

o After Cellucci left for his Bush-buddy ambassadorships,
Jane Swift, the Republican Lt. Gov was the heir-apparent.
But Romney needed a launching place for his 2008 Presidential
bid and Swift had had a few embarrassing incidents so he and
his friends unceremoniously kicked Jane to the curb and
installed Romney as the candidate in her stead.

And the rest is history.

Tesha
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:28 AM
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5. He lied
Really no other way to go about it. He promised to be a Bill Weld style of Republican, which is still pretty popular down there.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:29 AM
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6. That too. Or, just as likely, he has no actual inherent values. (NT)
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:32 AM
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7. He Lied........... He pretended to be a Moderate Rep.
And in a State where the legislature is VERY blue, and Taxes are high, Moderate Reps have a history of winning here.

He is pretty despised here now. I think McCain could beat him here.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:34 AM
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9. Or perhaps he really is a moderate and is lying now
Either way you can't trust him.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:42 AM
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10. Lying was a big reason and as said above the Dems historically
run very beatable candidates for Governor. The power in Mass is in the House and Senate which have strong, some say way too strong, political clout. They would never run for office of Governor which is a step back. Right now with Patrick Governor, DiMasi still reigns all the power. So Republicans run these somewhat moderate candidates like Weld and Celluci and Volpes who are very moderate. Mitt lied to take advantage of this. Along with O'Brien(another one of those weak Dems) running a poor campaign it was doomsday for dems.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 09:33 AM
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8. Mass elects a LOT of Repugs AND RW Dems to the governorship
There have also been Weld and Ed King, among others...
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