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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:49 PM
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BUSH "We Do Not Torture" KNEW+Personally Signed Off On Waterboarding & Other Enhanced Interrogation
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 06:57 PM by kpete
Since when can the Attorney General of the United States give "legal approval" to patently illegal acts?

CIA Chief Names Three Who Were Waterboarded; Bush Signed Off On It
by GreyHawk
Tue Feb 05, 2008 at 03:24:02 PM PST
Crossposted from ePluribus Media.

Gee, for a nation that doesn't torture, this shouldn't be happening:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CIA director on Tuesday publicly named for the first time the three suspected al Qaeda detainees who were subjected to the harsh interrogation technique of waterboarding.

"It was used on Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. It was used on Abu Zubayda, and it was used on (Abd al-Rahim) al-Nashiri," CIA Director Michael Hayden told a Senate hearing.

..................

Director of National Intelligence Michael McConnell, who also testified at the hearing, said waterboarding remains a technique in the CIA's arsenal, according to The Associated Press. He said it would require the president's consent and legal approval from the attorney general, the AP reported.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/05/terror.threat/index.html

There you have it, folks.

Bush, in his speeches where he insisted "we do not torture," constantly referred to the Attorney General's tortured definition of torture that was rewritten to exclude waterboarding, so that he could claim that "we do not torture" and still not technically lie, even though he knew he had personally signed off on Waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogation" ("torture") techniques.


more at:
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/5/182045/8748/1008/450534

Earlier today, CIA Director Michael Hayden confirmed that the U.S. had subjected three detainees to waterboarding.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) thinks that’s worth exploring. And in a letter today, he called on Attorney General Michael Mukasey to open an investigation:


In light of your testimony that, "There are circumstances where waterboarding is clearly unlawful," the Justice Department should investigate the instances in which the Administration has used waterboarding to determine whether any laws were violated.... Needless to say, a Justice Department investigation should explore whether waterboarding was authorized and whether those who authorized it violated the law.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/02/durbin_calls_for_investigation.php#more


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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:50 PM
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1. Yes, but there are no instances where Bush intentionally lied...
:sarcasm:
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:56 PM
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4. Torture is not impeachable enough says Nancy
We need more hearings

We need to send them more letters

We need to ask for more witnesses who won't come

Its a joke, and it is on the American people and the constitution.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:51 PM
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2. "Smirk." - Commander AWOL
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 06:52 PM by SpiralHawk

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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:51 PM
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3. Do not even USE the term "enhanced interrogation"
which means torture, but deters people from thinking about it. So, the Liar-In-Chief knew. What a surprise.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 06:59 PM
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5. They admitted to engaging in torture and water-boarding IS torture
and torture is illegal.

"...to determine whether any laws were violated"

there's no need to pretend that there's a question of the legality of water-boarding. It isn't legal. So we ALREADY know laws were violated.

"whether those who authorized it violated the law."

Again, no need to investigate "whether" they violated the law by authorizing torture. THEY DID.





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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:01 PM
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6. File under "Says it All," three words for infamy: George "Waterboard" Bush
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 03:01 AM
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11. It never ends. I just don't know how to refer to him/them anymore.
Dumbya
WWRE - Worst Waterboarding pResident Ever
DickieGeorge
#2
Teh malAdministration
Chimpy

I've never used:
Commander AWOL
Teh Sniggering Smirk

While I realize name calling is juvenile, I, like so many others, feel I have no other outlet for the depth of contempt I hold for teh psychopathic man-child and his minions ruining our country.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:04 PM
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7. I Wonder If George Listens to Tapes of Screaming Victims
to go to sleep at night. I bet he gets off on this crap... I really do.

I will never forget his reaction to Karla Faye Tucker pleading for mercy..... it's all I needed to see to understand why he does what he does.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:12 PM
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8. The man turned out to be a pathological liar.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:17 PM
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9. "Enhanced Interrogation?".....well, all righty then....
guess that is a better term than torture...unfortunately, the words still mean the same...wb
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:11 PM
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10. "extreme discomfort" would also be acceptable
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:23 PM
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12. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck...
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