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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:31 PM
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The incredibly credible...Karl Rove. Sunday morning talker extraordinaire.
What a guy that Bush Architect is. He just keeps keeping on. None of the legal shadows stick, nothing. He just gets more and more attention. He gets to write for Newsweek as well

He gets to appear on Fox News as an incredibly credible spokesperson. They love his chubby little face there. He gets to be on the Sunday morning shows, and they bow to his superior political knowledge.

And while he is doing that, one of his supposed political victims is sitting in prison. That person has not even been able to file an appeal because the state is stalling on the transcript from his trial. His name is Don Siegelman, former governor of Alabama. It truly is a stain on Lady Justice.

Meanwhile, he is avoiding subpoenas from our Democrats.

Last month Senate Judiciary Chair Patrick Leahy subpoenaed Rove to testify about his role in the politicization of the Justice Department and the firing of nine U.S. attorneys. So far Rove has ignored the subpoena and has refused to testify, citing executive privilege. In addition, two weeks ago Rove skipped a Congressional hearing on the allegedly improper use by White House aides of Republican National Committee email accounts. Leahy has vowed to continue the investigation. Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One, Rove said "I'm Moby Dick and they're after me."


Does that bother the corporate media heads who happily invite him to spread his political wisdom and blather? Not at all. He is very welcomed by them.

Moderate Republicans are becoming wary of Rove. They fear he will attack those in his own party who do not support Bush policies.

From Andrew Sullivan via the Moderate Voice:

"Next week, I'm informed via troubled White House sources, will see the full unveiling of Karl Rove's fall election strategy. He's intending to line up 9/11 families to accuse McCain, Warner and Graham of delaying justice for the perpetrators of that atrocity, because they want to uphold the ancient judicial traditions of the U.S. military and abide by the Constitution. He will use the families as an argument for legalizing torture, setting up kangaroo courts for military prisoners, and giving war crime impunity for his own aides and cronies."


From the Guardian in 2004, we see what awesome power this man has. He was able to marginalize Paul O'Neil and keep Bush in line.

Earlier this year, for instance, Paul O'Neill, Bush's former treasury secretary, gave an account of a pivotal cabinet meeting in late 2002 to discuss a second round of deep tax cuts, at which the president apparently had second thoughts about focusing so much of the benefits on the wealthy. "Didn't we already give them a break at the top?" Bush asks, according to O'Neill's account. Rove brings the president back in line, urging him to "stick to principle". Rove won the day, and O'Neill was forced out of the cabinet.

Who is Karl Rove


This paragraph from that article shows more of his power.

The incident marked the genesis of the Rove-Bush axis and it was in Washington that Rove met the younger Bush. He fell, politically speaking, in love. "Huge amounts of charisma, swagger, cowboy boots, flight jacket, wonderful smile, just charisma - you know, wow," Rove recalled years later. In 1977, Rove was sent to Texas, in theory to run a political action committee, but according to one Texan political consultant who knew him at the time, "It was really to baby-sit Bush back when Bush was drinking".


He is an expert at avoiding subpoenas, then going on the air and getting attention...just as though he were a model citizen. It is amazing.

As the subject of a contempt resolution for hiding documents, Rove is hardly one to talk. Just last month, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted 12-7 to approve a contempt citation against Rove for withholding information relating to the firing of U.S. attorneys:

The committee subpoenaed Rove and Bolten over the summer as part of its probe into the firing of nine U.S. attorneys last year. Bush, citing executive privilege, refused to allow Rove and Bolten to testify or turn over documents to the panel. Bolten was subpoenaed in his role as custodian of White House records, while Rove called to testify over his knowledge on the role politics played in the firings.

The Senate Judiciary Committee requested Rove’s public testimony on the firings of the prosecutors and issued subpoenas for internal White House e-mails, memos, and other related documents. White House counsel Fred Fielding said Rove “had been directed” by President Bush “not to produce any documents or to produce any testimony.”

Moreover, last April, an RNC lawyer revealed that at least four years’ worth of Rove e-mails are “missing.” Congress has sought — unsuccessfully — to recover the “lost” emails from Rove.

Think Progress


He gets much airtime, while many of our best Democrats are ignored. And when they do go on, they are insulted by the talking heads.

But hey, now that the really bad reporter, David Shuster, is out of the way, suspended indefinitely....there will likely be more room for Karl Rove and his types.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:33 PM
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1. I read two paragraphs and I had to stop. Too creepy.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:57 PM
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5. Rover must have something on most everyone. .
Media Matters headline says it all.

"After viewing Rove's erroneous analysis, Wallace touted Rove's "level of analysis"

Summary: On Fox & Friends, Chris Wallace said of Karl Rove's performance as a Fox News contributor: "t's humbling, because it makes you realize that these real political professionals have a level of analysis and see things in the returns that we don't even understand. And his ability to crunch those numbers and project delegates and see things from the exit polls about what it told us about strengths and weaknesses." But neither Wallace nor any of the Fox & Friends co-hosts mentioned Rove's history of flawed political predictions and analysis, including his false claim the previous night that John McCain "is beating Obama and beating Clinton."
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:34 PM
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2. Corporate Media.... Don't Expect Integrity
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:41 PM
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3.  What a nice touch with that white board he held up
Someone should have grabbed that thing , busted it in half and force fed it to Rove and tossed him out on the street .
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:58 AM
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6. Check out my Media Matters link below. That white board is there.
:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:49 PM
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13. Oops, I guess I forgot the link.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:59 PM
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4. John Dean speaks of Rove and the "dark cloud"...
Rove and the media have been allowed to pretend all is well. But investigations are still going on.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070824.html

From last August:

The most prominent among these investigations are those being undertaken by the chairmen of the House and Senate's Judiciary committees, Representative John Conyers (D. MI) and Senator Patrick Leahy (D.VT), who are investigating the politicization of the Department of Justice, particularly in the hiring and firing of United States Attorneys. But an even broader inquiry is underway, initiated by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, under the direction of Chairman Henry Waxman (D. CA), and that inquiry has uncovered the extensive use of federal resources by the Bush Administration to assist its political friends and punish its political enemies.

..."So far, the Bush White House has successfully stonewalled all these inquiries by invoking executive privilege, which it construes in a manner so extreme as to lead it to instruct White House witnesses under subpoena to not even show up at the hearings at which they are scheduled to testify. Among those now so defying the Congress is Karl Rove, the Bush White House player many believe to be at the center of virtually all of the Bush Administration's politicalization efforts.

Rove, of course, has announced his departure from the White House. While I do not much like speculation, a secretive presidency like Bush's invites it. This fact calms any qualms I might have about exploring possibilities as why Rove is leaving now, in particular.

...."Another attorney suggested that since Rove is facing potential contempt proceedings by the House, and the Senate, or both, for his refusal to appear and testify, he has become a lightning rod for the president and the White House. Several Washington insiders viewed Rove's conspicuous "last hurrah" exit - visiting all the Sunday talk shows and giving farewell interviews to select members of the Washington press corps - as designed to help make the point to the public that he is now disassociated from the Bush White House. (Of course, this is not true, but public perception may now see him as an outsider.)


He must feel pretty comfortable that the investigations are bogged down now, so he feels free to venture onto the media with impunity.

Speaking of judges and speaking Rove and Alabama...he has a history of messing with judges there as far back as 1994.



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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:30 PM
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7. Karl Rove was the original Gerber Baby Food poster child
Ever wonder what happened to the baby in the picture on the front label of that jar of apple sauce?


:sarcasm:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:40 PM
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10. KKKarl ate him.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:40 PM
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11. KKKarl ate him.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:43 PM
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8. The biggest problem for me is that the media
hired a man who continues to break the fucking law. They're all criminals.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:38 PM
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9. I keep watching for Tom DeLay to become a frequent spokesperson.
It is unbearable how the worst of them keep bouncing back, thumbing their noses at decent people who believe in the rule of law.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:42 PM
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12. i bet if you or i ignored a federal subpoena we'd be with mr. siegelman
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navarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 06:33 PM
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14. the fact is that Mr. Rove makes a living by people like me wanting to punch his fat face.
k/r
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 08:56 PM
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15. Rasputin + Goebbels + Machiavelli
equals Rove.
When will this poison be removed?
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 10:22 PM
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16. When did journalism disappear?
I'm so tired of seeing fools and scoundrels spouting garbage in the name of "punditry."

Turd Blossom, how can we miss you when you won't go away? :shrug:
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