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lies Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:31 PM
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John McCain and William Kristol
Please forward this to all your Indy friends before it's too late. :)


What would President McCain's foreign policy be?

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/104/story/27096.html

McCain's foreign-policy team is sprinkled with people, including Scheunemann, who were ardent backers of the 2003 Iraq invasion and who dismissed critics who warned of unintended consequences. They include former CIA Director James Woolsey, an adviser mostly on energy security, and William Kristol, the editor of the conservative Weekly Standard.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:33 PM
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1. Kick
Good idea.
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lies Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:35 PM
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3. ex-lurker
This is my first post here... ex-lurker

I can't believe that I was the first to notice this, but as far as I can tell, I am..

:)

Spread it like wildfire.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:44 PM
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11. Should have added -
welcome!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:33 PM
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2. ...and also John Bolton, the neo-cons are the un-dead in the GOP
:hurts:
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:35 PM
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4. Why anyone listens to that asshole I'll never know.
He's ALWAYS wrong.
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lies Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:38 PM
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5. And the other shoe falls
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 07:39 PM by lies
Karl Rove last week announced that he had given $2300 to the presumptive GOP presidential nominee John McCain.

Asked over the weekend about the donation, McCain said he has "always respected Karl Rove as one of the smart great political minds I think in American politics," and specifically refused to condemn Rove's hyper-partisan campaign tactics (including his smears against McCain in the 2000 South Carolina race).

Video here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/10/mccain-embraces-rove_n_85881.html

Wow.


QUESTION: Are there other signs you see that are encouraging to you...


MCCAIN: Oh yeah. A lot of the fundraisers from other camps are coming on board. And yeah we're seeing that coming together really well. We're seeing it.



MCCAIN: Who?

QUESTION: Karl Rove?

MCCAIN: Oh I, listen, he ah. Nobody denies he's one of the smartest political minds in America. I'd be glad to get his advice. I get advice from a lot of people. I'd be happy to have his advice.

QUESTION: I was wondering about that, right....

MCCAIN: He beat me. I certainly would be glad to get his advice. I don't think I'd want to revisit how he did it. And I mean that. Not about South Carolina. I mean I don't feel like reliving my defeat.

QUESTION: Are you worried about, he uses very aggressive tactics is that something that--


MCCAIN: I've always respected Karl Rove as one of the smart great political minds I think in American politics. I've always respected him. We never had any ill will after the initial South Carolina thing. After we had the meeting with President Bush we moved on. I've seen Karl Rove many times when I've been over at the White House. We've always had pleasant conversations.


QUESTION: His tactics don't, you don't disapprove of them? They don't make you nervous?

MCCAIN: It's not so much whether I approve of his tactics or not. It's that he has a very good, great political mind. Any information or advice and council he can give us, I'd be glad to have. I don't think anybody denies his talents. So I'd be glad to get any advice and council. We would obviously decide whether to accept it or not.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:52 PM
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6. Thanks, Good info. nt
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:06 PM
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7. If Kristol is
an adviser to McCain, the NY Times should immediately pull his column. Times columnists CANNOT endorse candidates.
I don't see him mentioned in this article, do you have a reference for this?
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lies Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:08 PM
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8. The quote
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 08:11 PM by lies
The quote is directly pasted from the article.. use CTRL+F... (update: it's aprox. the 9th paragraph from the bottom)

And you are right, exactly right...

Someone make this their mission...

Either get him off the NYT or off McCain's BullshitBus
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:36 PM
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9. k n r
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:39 PM
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10. My letter to the Times
Editors,
In this article from McClatchy;
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/104/story/27096.html
It states; "McCain's foreign-policy team is sprinkled with people, including Scheunemann, who were ardent backers of the 2003 Iraq invasion and who dismissed critics who warned of unintended consequences. They include former CIA Director James Woolsey, an adviser mostly on energy security, and William Kristol, the editor of the conservative Weekly Standard."

I thought it was the policy of the New York Times that columnists could not endorse a candidate, let alone advise one. Have you no shame?
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lies Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 04:53 AM
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12. bump
bump

write more to the nyts
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lies Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:01 AM
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13. one more
kick up to the top...

anyone else bothered to bug the times?

I did!

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:05 AM
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14. John McCain is CHAIRMAN of the IRI...
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:55 AM
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15. So NY Times columnist's William Kristol is an advisor to the McCain campaign & that's ethical?
But in reality journalistic ethics have become a quaint relic of a better past.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:07 PM
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16. My favorite Kristol quote
“Among conservatives there's been too much pseudo-populism, almost too much concern and attention for, quote, 'the people'... After all, we conservatives are on the side of the lords and barons... We...are pulling up the drawbridge against the peasants.”
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