Most Evangelical Leaders Still Support Iraq Genocide

http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080212/31154_Most_Evangelical_Leaders_Still_Support_Iraq_War.htm

Most evangelical leaders still support the war in Iraq and want the United States to “stay until the job is done,” according to a survey released Monday.

Even those who say the invasion of Iraq was a mistake based on faulty intelligence believe that it would be wrong to now leave, according to the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE)’s February 2008 Evangelical Leaders Survey.

“We should not have gone in,” said one respondent, who was only identified as a denominational CEO by the NAE. “But we are going to need to stay in long enough to prevent chaos and to stabilize the country.”

Other evangelical leaders insisted the war is just, President Bush was right in his decisions, and the United States should stay the course.

“Iraq represents that existential threat we have from global Islamic Jihadists,” responded another unidentified leader. “We must defeat it in Iraq, Afghanistan and then act preemptively to destroy it wherever it emerges.”

i mean, it's right there in their holy holy book for christ sake.

really, modern christianity is a death cult.

Like

"If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;


Deu 13:7 , of the gods of the people which round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the end of the earth even unto the end of the earth;


Deu 13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:


Deu 13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.


Deu 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage."

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu013.html

:rofl:

yeah, the death cult apologists have tried to split that hair on me.

The answer seems to be "Thou shalt not kill or maim in anger," which allows the death penalty. However, rabbinical law put so many qualifiers on the death penalty, it was literally impossible to carry out, which means, to my way of thinking, they realized that taking a life was wrong.

It was just an aside for the general edification of those who actually have a world view...

who analyze every single word, its context and frequency of use in the Old Testament. They are convinced that "Thou shalt not murder" is about killing the innocent. Muslims or modern-day Jews, are guilty of rejecting Christ, therefore, if you kill them, it won't be murder. They don't give a shit about what some rabbi thinks - the rabbi rejected Christ, so why should they trust his judgment on anything?

I am sure you know this, but this was just for edification of those who don't know their fellow evangelicals.

who believes the bible is the inerrant word of god, the seeming disconnect between the admonition to not kill, yet the same god that wrote said rule then instructs them to kill quite a lot???

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OnEdit : even with spell check i get it wrong

well...that sounds confrontational...not trying to be...

But even most Jewish translations of the Tanakh into English use "murder" ... and there is certainly a difference between killing and murder (and yes, I acknowledge that both yield the same dreadful result). All murder is killing but not all killing is murder...would you agree?

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that is strange...accidental deaths, too? I can agree with you on things like the death penalty...and many MANY wars, but sometimes they are justified...

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Everything else is. Period.

that an accidental death isn't killing. i mean, if you want to go that route, then eventually there is no such thing as an accidental killing and at the very least it would be negligent homicide.

i commend you on being a true pacifist...we don't find many...

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Hebrew word for "kill" is "הרג" - "harog"

Hebrew word for "murder" is "רצח" - "retzach"

Ten Commandments "לא תרצח" - "lo tirtzach"

And the Jewish renditions of the texts are about murder...not killing. Not to mention the fact that killing in time of war and as a punishment is found throughout the bible.

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read my post #13.

On general rethinking, no. I don't agree there is a difference. The result is the same.

I had a woman on a now-defunct board tell me in all seriousness that Genocide was sanctioned by her God. There was also that bit about being religious enough giving you worldly wealth. That isn't what I read in Matthew.......

but all I got was stonewalling, evasion. Not a single elder would say it was immoral, so naturally I left the church. I am pretty sure they are still wallowing in their own filth in there.

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dead Iraqi's was a threat to the freedom of the God Fearing U S of A? Even the one's that weren't could have been a threat in the future. I mean, that's what we do now, we run around freaking out shooting anyone that might be a threat to us sometime in the future. Minority Report.