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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:03 PM Original message |
When We Torture: The Dept for Taking Down America's Worldwide Reputation (NYT Kristof) |
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2 Much Tribulation (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. For centuries America's had this moral leadership --- why abandon it now? K&R nt |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. So true -- Lincoln gave special orders not to mistreat confederate troops, as did Gen. Washington... |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Rommel was so admired by the Allied troops in North Africa, that |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. Torture is the most heinous thing one person |
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2 Much Tribulation (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. & among most heinous a country can do - the tortured may well be innocent, the torturer never is |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. touche' - kudos but do you know who first said that truism? I can't recall nt |
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stellanoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. K & R;d |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. concisely, succinctly and truthfully put, Stella. Thanks for calling spades spades.... nt |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:30 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I felt the same, Paul. It's bit like reviling concentration camps - |
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2 Much Tribulation (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
8. any torture is too much torture, kick.... nt |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
11. Thanks. K & R> |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. I hope America can get its soul back. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Its soul is still there & always will be but we gotta UPHOLD it (think: Oaths of office) nt |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
14. Mr. al-Hajj's crime was that he photographed the results of a U.S. massacre in Iraq |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
15. k&r. History is going to look back on this period as one of the darkest ever, |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I believe you're quite right about that, robinlynne. thanks for stating the truth. nt |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 06:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. hiya LandShark! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
16. Will they ever forgive us. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. What's your best guess? |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Let me think a bit |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. If what we do to others was done to your child, spouse, sibling, parent... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Hell no. |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
23. No words to express my horror. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. "We do not torture." GW Bush. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. Torture is tyrannical and an act of terror. What we have become,...is an evil rather than,... |
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