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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:18 PM
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Hitler Was A Leftist Dictator
I accidentally heard Rush on the radio for a couple of minutes today just to hear him make that claim. He said Hitler killed people and decided who was fit to live and die just like the left wants to do. :wtf:

This waste of space is so outrageous and lies so blatantly that it almost leaves one speechless.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:19 PM
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1. "I accidentally heard Rush"...Well, there's your problem...
right there.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:20 PM
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2. Yeah, I Know
I corrected it and turned the dial as soon as I got over be stunned.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:23 PM
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4. Seriously, the "Cartoon Right" is about to be jettisoned...
As too much baggage for either Republicans or Democrats.

*Surveys wreckage* Their job here is done.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:22 PM
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3. Does anybody know where Rush got his masters in political science?
I believe it must have been from one of those mail-in sites in Dumbicstan.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:24 PM
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6. The Worst Part Was That The Caller Replied
"Yeah, that was what I was thinking" or something to that effect. Pathetic.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:28 PM
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9. Well he really wasn't thinking that, he listens to Rush to find out what to think.
His ditto heads don't ever have an original thought. They live in a self imposed immaturity.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:26 PM
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At the University of Cracker Jacks,
and I heard he needed help getting his diploma out of the box.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:28 PM
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10. It wasn't a school
because he's a dropout.

In any case, he's only continuing to coast on familiarity now. He's stale, not doing anything new and different, just harping on the same old lies he's told for years. He's been over for years, it's just that neither he nor his fans have figured it out yet.

Don't stick a fork in him, though. Consider the cleanup after all that pus has exploded out.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:06 PM
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27. Actually, it was the U of Dumbfuckistan. nt
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:24 PM
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5. Damn history books!
They keep printing them faster than Rush and his buddies can rewrite them.
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DemzRock Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:26 PM
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7. Why are you posting this garbage?
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 02:27 PM by glenhappy
Fascism and Nazism were corporatist. Right wing. Don't believe me? Check your encyclopedia!


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What Grolliers Says about totalitarianism:

"Types of Totalitarianism Two types of totalitarianism may be distinguished: NAZISM and FASCISM on the RIGHT and COMMUNISM on the left. While sharing the ideological and organizational features discussed ..., the two differ in important respects.
Right totalitarian movements, such as the Nazi party in Germany and the Fascists in Italy, have drawn their popular support mainly from middle classes seeking to maintain the status quo and advance their own social position. Left totalitarianism, such as that of the former USSR, relies instead on a lower or working class seeking to eliminate, not preserve, class distinctions.
Right totalitarianism has been outspokenly racist and elitist, whereas, in theory, left totalitarianism has not. Right totalitarianism, unlike its leftist counterpart, rests on a cult of the hero, although in practice the cults of Joseph STALIN and MAO Zedong were as pronounced as those of Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini. Moreover, right totalitarianism has supported and enforced the private ownership of industrial wealth. A distinguishing feature of Soviet communism, by contrast, was the collective ownership of such capital"

Note how facism "supported and enforced the private ownership of industrial wealth!"

Now are you aware that Prescott Bush, W's grandfather, had monetary ties to Nazi Germany?
"http://newscoast.com Author links Bush family to Nazis The president of the Florida Holocaust Museum said Saturday that George W. Bush's grandfather derived a portion of his personal fortune through his affiliation with a Nazi-controlled bank.

John Loftus, a former prosecutor in the Justice Department's Nazi War Crimes Unit, said his research found that Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was a principal in the Union Banking Corp. in Manhattan in the late 1930s and the 1940s.
Leading Nazi industrialists secretly owned the bank at that time Loftus said and were moving money into it through a second bank in Holland even after the United States declared war on Germany. The bank was liquidated in 1951, Loftus said, and Bush's grandfather and great-grandfather received $1.5 million from the bank as part of that dissolution. "

OK, how about Mussolini's OWN description of fascism?
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"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power." Benito Mussolini (Facist Dictator of Italy, our enemy during WW2!)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:33 PM
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15. Perhaps You Should Re-read The OP
I was obviously not endorsing it. In fact, I just posted it to express how horrified I was by the stupidity of it. Ignoring what they say may seem blissful but it reality, as the last 7 years have proven, it is dangerous.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:27 PM
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8. During the mid-90's, I heard Rush along those same lines
It wasnt the fascism that was the problem. It was the socialism.

He said that the reason Nazism failed is because it was socialism.
Its in their name : National Socialist German Workers Party.
See?
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:30 PM
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11. Here's another one I've heard:
Edited on Fri Feb-22-08 02:31 PM by Bright Eyes
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:31 PM
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12. Why in the world are you listening to him?
This is the second or third thread I've seen on DU today about Limbaugh. I swear that half of his audience are liberals.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:36 PM
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18. I Said It Was An Accident
The radio was tuned to the station (it is also a news station) when I got in. I really think it pays to keep up on their claims anyway but I am not one who usually does because it makes me seethe.
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Bright Eyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:32 PM
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13. Here's a refutation:
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Skoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:33 PM
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14. That
fat Conservative sleazeball with the face of a horses ass needs to get back on those pills...in fact, just take a whole bottle Rush.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:38 PM
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19. Worthwhile Donation
Everyone send Rush their extra pain pills.
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Malmo Blue Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:33 PM
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16. "Hitler a leftist dictator?"
Wow, the jackboot-wearing Fascist right-wing are getting really desperate.
Was Rush Limbaugh reading out of Michael Savage' latest book "Everyone Is A Nazi, Except For Me; And Oh Yeah, Put All Muslims In The Gas Chambers, How-Do-You-Like-That"? They might speak 14 Words, but we have 14 Characteristics of Fascism to associate them with. http://youtube.com/watch?v=VVVa1IvHdKc

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:33 PM
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17. A hierarchical socio-political structure is by definition right wing
Hitler's socio-political hierarchy was based on race/ethnicity. That made him a racist, which is also by definition right wing.

Now, if he wanted to claim that Stalin was a leftist who didn't care how many people he killed in order to build a socialist state just like the left wants to do he would be on firmer ground, but even then he would be overgeneralizing. The analogy of firmer ground in this instance can be best justified by the fact that quicksand is firmer than a lot of hot air.
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sweetpotato Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:39 PM
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20. Number 4 on the hot 100 at Amazon is...
_Liberal Fascism, The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning_


If you read the review of the book - its obvious that the author has little understanding of what Fascism really means.

I think *they* are attempting to re-define the word. *They* know its a bad word, its bad to be called fascist, so they have to change the definition of the word itself so that it fits Hillary.

The new definition (according to author Jonah Goldberg) is that fascism is the use of government to cure society's ills.

Doesn't exactly match my dictionary, but when did that ever stop *them*
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:39 PM
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21. He knows better and he knows how ignorant of history his
listeners are. Sure Hitler rose with the Nazi party which supposedly was a worker's socialist party, but as he gained power in the party he purged the real socialists and turned to pandering to the conservative, manufacturing and corporate base in Germany for financial support for his party. The Nazi Party that emerged was anything but for workers and socialism. The need for war was to give the manufacturers the needed business to make weapons and war gear as pay back, just like our home grown Nazis are doing now. The only reason the Bushistas don't claim to be socialists is because their party made a dirty word of communism back in the McCarthy era and so they can't use it.
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Skoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:40 PM
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22. Funny flash about Rush
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:48 PM
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25. Awe Yes, I Remember That Song
Funny because it is so true.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:41 PM
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23. I'm thinking of seeing a lawyer.




So that I can bring suit against OxyRush for wasting oxygen meant for me and my loved ones.




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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:43 PM
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24. Hitler was a PSYCHO...he knew he was dying and the asshole took
40 million plus with him

Advanced syphilis over 12 years+ left him with trembling hands, etc

The pills taken was recorded by his doctor...log book exists

Then, he was also high much of the time with various drugs...like METH....

He closely resembled being a Republican...the Tom DeLay Type....
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 02:53 PM
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26. only legitimacy to that claim is that the official left party in our country
has moved so far to the corporatist right that in comparison to them he would be a leftist. which makes even the liberal party a scary right wing party.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:11 PM
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28. They always base this argument ultimately upon the word "socialist"
in the Nazi name. Of course, it was in there for the same reason that China calls itself a "republic". I doubt Limbaugh would claim that China has a representational system of government, but there you go. It's almost not even worth arguing this point, as it only legitimizes the claim. I tend to just laugh at people who say it, and ask them if they think the world is flat, too.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:33 PM
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29. The new book out by Jonah Goldberg,
Liberal Fascism, makes the same argument, that Fascism is a form of liberalism. Perhaps that's where Limbaugh picked up the idea. An interesting idea - wrong, really wrong, but interesting.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 03:49 PM
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30. Hitler was the ultimate conservative. One of the reasons he
came to power was because he played upon the emotions of a battered people, claiming he could restore the glory of Germany by "returning to the days when Germany was a great nation", precisely what the RW mantra of today is.

FWIW, he was also the consummate lover of industry, (read corporations in the German way of thinking), fascism is based on a melding of political and industrial power...hmmm, sound like anything the RW might come up with?

Industry provided Hitler with necessary means to conduct a war of unparalleled cruelty and death. (Hmmm...wonder if profit ever entered the equation...:eyes: )

Sorry Rusty, I mean Rush...you have it backward, as usual.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:21 PM
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31. On the mixed boards a few years ago that is all you heard from freeper
types: Hitler was a leftist. Just ignore it. Or better yet...don't listen to Rush.
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NavyVet07 Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-22-08 04:25 PM
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32. Hitler was a Nationalist
With a socialized government. Even though our beliefs in the government paradigm have shifted through the years, he was still right wing in his day. A Leftist "Dictator" could be FDR. He socialized with a velvet glove and held power for years on end, however under the title of president.

Hitler was in no way leftist.
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