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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:48 PM
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From the 60 Minutes message boards: "first 12 minutes of Seigleman segment not shown in Alabama"
Most of the 60 Minutes segment detailing the prosecution of former Governor Don Siegelman was not seen in North Alabama. The local CBS affiliate went black for approximately 12 minutes at the start of the episode. Many local supporters of the former Governor believe the blackout was an intentional censuring of the program which shows the Republican strategist Karl Rove and the Republican-led Justice Department in a bad light.


Posted by TimFromAL at 07:38 PM : Feb 24, 2008

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/21/60minutes/main3859830.shtml#ccmm
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:49 PM
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Holy cow
They're being that obvious, huh? Then there must be something serious they're afraid of here.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:49 PM
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1. Censorship; whodathunkit? nt
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:50 PM
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2. *shakes head*
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:51 PM
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3. Shades of Soviet radio jammers.....
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:51 PM
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4. RRRRroooolllll Tide!!111
Tidal wave of bama republic bullshit...
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:51 PM
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5. They're acting like Soviets.
What crap.
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JackCo Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:52 PM
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6. Yep
WHNT was black for about 15 minutes. They are running a line at the bottom stating the CBS station in NY was experiencing technical difficulties. They do not know if 60mins will re-air the broadcast. Ummmm Yeah Right!
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:52 PM
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I watched it
On Channel 42 from Birmingham.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:52 PM
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7. I can't wait to hear
what the excuse for the blackout will be!
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:53 PM
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8. Seems Like A Good Story For An INVESTIGATIVE News Magazine
to, you know, investigate, right?
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:55 PM
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9. My wife and I had been waiting all day to see how 60 Minutes would handle this.
We could not believe it when the station "went out". We were watching the CBS affiliate out of Huntsville, AL and we were just open-mouthed stunned that this would happen. My wife (who is the stable one) said, "How much of this do we put up with before it can no longer be called "tin-foil hat"?" It is a good question...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:58 PM
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You watch. They'll blame it on a "technical glitch" like the 2002 election theft...
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 07:58 PM by Junkdrawer
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:58 PM
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11. Be cool. It will be on youtube tomorrow.
I spent many years down in Ft Rucker during Vietnam war days. I know how entrenched the wingers are. Keep the faith!
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:19 PM
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34. It isn't 'cool' ....
There are two issues here ...

1) The defrauding of Alabama citizens by the GOP under Karl Rove, and the travesty of 'justice' perpetrated against Mr. Seigelmann ...

2) The intentional censorship of a VERY important story from the same citizens ....

Youtube can 'fix' issue #1

That leaves issue #2 unaccounted for ....

So no: It still isn't cool ....
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:08 PM
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18. I was telling my DH about this and he doesn't seeem to believe me
I'm looking for another online source (no offense!) so that I can convince him.

I was upset they didn't mention the stolen votes, they just said he lost by a narrow amount (something like that wording).
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:11 PM
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22. replying to myself
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:08 PM
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62. See Google for references
1,330 hits so far on a search with terms WHNT, "60 Minutes", and Siegelman.


Not to mention the station's website, as several other posters have pointed out.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:26 AM
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78. Here's the note on the station website.
We apologize that you missed the first segment of 60 Minutes tonight featuring a report titled, "The Prosecution of Don Siegelman."

NewsChannel 19 lost our program feed from CBS. Upon investigation, WHNT has learned that the CBS receiver that allows us to receive programming from CBS failed. WHNT engineers responded as quickly as possible to restore the feed at 6:12 p.m.

Our sincere apologies to our viewers across the Tennessee Valley. To correct the problem, we will re-air the broadcast of that segment during NewsChannel 19 at 10 Sunday night.

You can also watch the interview on the CBS website.

They changed their story after CBS said that their original excuse about "technical difficulties" at CBS was a lie. Now they are claiming that the "difficulties" were in their own equipment. How transparent!

Are we supposed to believe that their equipment mysteriously failed just as the Siegelman story began, then mysteriously repaired itself just as the story ended? Is it possible that the people of Alabama are dumb enough to fall for this obvious crap? I know Alabama has kind of a bad reputation, but can the people there really be that gullible?? Come on. This is like living in Stalinist Russia.

And they ask us why we hate Republicans. Sheesh.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #78
98. 10PM Sunday night. Not exactly primetime.
That's the television equivalent of the back page.

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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #78
103. As someone who knows a little about this
that is a totally plausible story. The signal went out. They thought it was CBS, called TOC and TOC said it wasn't them. It takes some time to find the source of the problem. And it was only one station. Not much of a nefarious plot.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #103
105. Well, yes, but....
It doesn't strike you as strange that the one station that this happened to was in Alabama and that the one story that they lost was about a scandal involving an Alabama governor? That's a pretty improbable coincidence, no?
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #105
107. it is a coincidence, no more or less likely than for it to have
happened in new jersey or colorado. it would be much more unlikely if several stations had had the same problem.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #103
137. Yes,. but look at the timeing. Sometimes life is stranger than fiction.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
24. Almost like the powers to be in the state want to prove
the point of corruption and manipulation in the name of politics. I hope there is loud burst of local outrage at the affiliates that went dark.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #9
27. Hmm...they use the public's airwaves. Time to go after their license.
One would think that people could begin organizing a campaign to identify the owners of the station and go after their broadcasting license.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:57 PM
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10. You libtard, they had technical difficulties.
Forget about blacking out the signal, there are black helicopters out your window.

:sarcasm:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. technical difficulties...like in the 2002 election...
:eyes:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #13
33. Yep, and remember, that's the election where a lot of these dirty tricks came out to play.
New Hampshire saw the phone jamming scandal, where the Republicans jammed a Democrat/Firefighter get out the vote drive!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #33
37. 2002 saw the birth of the BlackBoxVoting movement....Georgia in particular....
Followed Wellstone's "accident"...
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #37
110. the bastards swiftboated Cleland and then stole both the senate and the Gov/ n/t
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 07:59 PM
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12. that is really bad
they wouldn't let the people of alabama find out what goes on in alabama. mygawd. i'm just watching it now because i couldn't get CBS on my tv (no cable).
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:01 PM
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14. Accidents happen.
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:02 PM
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15. Holy shit!
I can't believe I'm surprised. I'm an Alabama girl who just moved to Michigan, so I saw it here. :(
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:06 PM
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16. Goes to show the truth hurts, and Alabama media companies
are hurting. The censorship supports the story.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:08 PM
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17. CBS? Censoring? Say it ain't so!
Oh wait...they've done this before, quite a few times.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:09 PM
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19. That will only make it worse for the stations, the repugs, and Rove
Now everybody will want to see it in Alabama.

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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:09 PM
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20. Comcast censoring, it seems. ***** Happy Birthday Gov. Don Siegelman ***** Official SHOUT OUT Suppor
***** Happy Birthday Gov. Don Siegelman ***** Official SHOUT OUT Support Thread *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2915968

Give us a hand putting together a great Birthday Greeting thread, please!
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #20
28. Does Comcast own the CBS affiliate in northern Alabama? NT
NT
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JackCo Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. Not sure
But I get the Huntsville local channels through Dish Network.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #32
38. Did you watch the first story on "60 Minutes" tonight on TV? NT
NT
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JackCo Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. No
Just the last few minutes of the segment. Up thread I mentioned is was blacked out but they did run a line about CBS NY having technical problems and not sure if the show would re-air.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #28
43. WHNT is owned by Oak Hill Capital
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 08:31 PM by Syrinx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Hill_Capital

The company is headed by Robert Bass. The Bass family has close ties to George W. Bush.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bass
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #20
66. Comcast is innocent
The program was broadcast by everybody except the station controlled by loyal bushies in Huntsville.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:10 PM
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21. too bad there wasn't some kind of worldwide network of computers
where the video could be uploaded for people in Alabama to watch
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. It's good that some people in northern Alabama will watch online, but...
...the censorship still means that millions of people who would have seen it, won't.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #26
29. so true
BUT, I have a feeling that they will be hearing about it now anyway!

Wow what a story!
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #26
93. Go easy on the hysterical drama
One station in the entire state didn't show 12 minutes for whatever reason. Most of the population of Alabama who wanted to see it, could. It was on in Birmingham the population center of the state. There are not "millions of people" who didn't see it. There were tens of thousands at best.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:11 PM
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censoring not censuring
censoring = preventing the public from seeing something for dubious reasons
censuring = criticizing
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:17 PM
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31. As in,
that %^$%##%&#Z&^$33 station should be censured for censoring the show.

Hell, they should be criminally charged. Goddamn it all to hell, the airwaves belong to the people!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:11 PM
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23. My God! What more does anybody need to know to understand that
Alabama is a Republican fiefdom?
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nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:12 PM
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25. If I could use photoshop i'd set one up of Dan Rather w/ some wire cutters...
hint, hint HINT!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:16 PM
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30. another rovian koinkydink
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:20 PM
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35. American PRAVDA......
.... Sad days, these sre.

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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #35
46. Republican Government at it's finest.
These un-American bastards need to be frog marched to a firing squad, and all of their underlings need to be witnesses, so they can see what happens to those who place Party above Country.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:20 PM
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36. WHNT in Huntsville, AL has this on their home page now:
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 08:20 PM by MelissaB
60 Minutes Programming Note
February 24, 2008

We apologize that you missed the first segment of 60 Minutes tonight featuring "The Prosecution of Don Siegelman."

It was a techincal problem with CBS out of New York. We are working (Clicked to read rest) with them right now to see if we can re-broadcast the segment.

Please be patient with us during this time. We are doing our best to correct the problem.

Link :http://www.whnt.com/
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #36
39. Technical problem my ass......
.... What a banquet of bullshit!



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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #39
57. Now there is a phrase worth it's own rant
"banquet of bullshit"

Mind if I use it sometime for one of my rants? :)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #57
67. Feel free.....but I want a cut if it takes off.
:)
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #67
71. Done - Will work on it now and give you mention
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 12:09 AM by The Straight Story
Will check with the DU shareholders later on for your cut :rofl:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:35 PM
Response to Reply #36
48. It was a techincal problem with CBS out of New York.
Ah, no ... all the other stations got the feed just fine.
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:39 PM
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49. It's possible
As I recall, these network feeds are on satellites and each affiliate has to have a properly authorized decoder on their end to get the signal. It's how networks control who gets their feed. (In the old days, anyone with one of those garage-sized dishes could get it all because the broadcasts were "in the clear.")

So someone outside the station could have "de-authorized" their decoder so they wouldn't get the feed. It could have been someone at CBS, the satellite company, or anyone else who has a finger in the pie.
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #36
117. And they will re-air the piece in its entirety...when?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:22 PM
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40. Just to show it was an accident 60 Minutes should air the show again next week
Now if it gets blacked out again something is funny.

Don
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Sacajawea Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. You type faster than I do!
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Sacajawea Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:27 PM
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41. CBS should re-broadcast the entire Siegelman segment NEXT Sunday....
There couldn't possibly be another "technical problem" two Sundays in a row, now could there?
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:32 PM
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45. And those of us who watched it didn't see much either.
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 08:33 PM by Fly by night
Not a GD word about the 2002 election theft.

What a panty-waist POS story. Come on, CBS, the real story is biting you in your corpulent ass.

Get a fucking clue, can't ye?
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #45
63. What would you have added besides the election theft?
Production time limits the amount of information you can show. I thought the segment was very powerful -- very believable.

It makes the legals system of the DoJ and Alabama look like a Nazi conspiracy.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #63
84. They omitted the fact that his trial transcript has still not been released, ...
... thus making it impossible for his attorneys to file an appeal.

A trial transcript not released this long after the trial? Pretty newsworthy, I would say.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:34 PM
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47. Let me guess - a GLITCH, right?
Just like the glitches with the voting machines. Because the technology only happens to act up when it favors (or in this case, hides the dirty politics of) the Republicans.




:argh:
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:44 PM
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50. Who's the station mgr? Rose Mary Woods? nt
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #50
77. Here she is in action, censoring CBS by mistake.


It could happen to anyone.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:49 PM
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51. WHNT ties to George W. Bush
That station is owned by Oak Hill Capital. Oak Hill Capital is headed by Robert Bass.

Bass was born into an extremely wealthy family with an uncle, Sid Richardson, worth $810 million. He and his three brothers Lee, Ed, and Sid Bass all attended Yale University, where they solidified their moneyed and political connections. Ed Bass was a classmate and personal friend of George W. Bush, and the brothers, especially Lee Bass, helped Bush financially both before and throughout his political career. Working together with his brothers as Bass Brothers Enterprises and independently, Robert Bass made many lucrative investments through his own firm, the Robert M. Bass Group, later Keystone Inc. Most recently, in 2004 he started Aerion Corp to develop supersonic corporate jets, which is the beneficiary of lucrative Federal DARPA contracts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bass
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #51
52. During the Harken Energy scandal, Lee Bass's name kept coming up....
like a bad penny.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #51
53. Good digging!
:wow:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. Do you think this deserves its own thread?
I'm afraid it will be buried here.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #54
61. I started one here:
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #51
59. my god. could they be a little less obvious in the future? n/t
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #51
70. kick for this post -- great sleuthing.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:13 PM
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55. this is anecdotal
and just a random post on the internet, right?

might want to hold off on the rage until we find out if this is true for sure.
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. It's verified. Here's the announcement from WHNT-TV's own website:
Edited on Sun Feb-24-08 09:20 PM by Mister Ed
http://www.whnt.com/Global/story.asp?S=7918345


60 Minutes Programming Note

February 24, 2008

We apologize that you missed the first segment of 60 Minutes tonight featuring "The Prosecution of Don Siegelman."

It was a techincal problem with CBS out of New York. We are working with them right now to see if we can re-broadcast the segment.

Please be patient with us during this time. We are doing our best to correct the problem.



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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. If their apology is sincere, WHNTshould firstly put the segment on their website. NT
NT
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #56
60. funny how a glitch in new york blacks out alabama & no where else
but i'm outside of chicago, and i was getting pixel distortion on the screen throughout the segment, off and on. i kept waiting for the channel to go out. but it didn't.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #60
64. The Tubes of the Internets Got All Clogged
It was pure coincidence that:
- the only station in the CBS system that had trouble with its feed was in Alabama
- the technical problems only happened during the Siegelman story, and
- the station is controlled by loyal bushies.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #64
68. see post 139 in this link
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #56
85. ok. thanks for posting that. - nt
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:39 PM
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65. as is your post
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #55
138. Do you really believe anyone will come out with a definitive answer on this? Don't think so.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:16 PM
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69. UPDATE:

February 24, 2008

We apologize that you missed the first segment of 60 Minutes tonight featuring a report titled, "The Prosecution of Don Siegelman."

NewsChannel 19 lost our program feed from CBS. Upon investigation, WHNT has learned that the CBS receiver that allows us to receive programming from CBS failed. WHNT engineers responded as quickly as possible to restore the feed at 6:12 p.m.

Our sincere apologies to our viewers across the Tennessee Valley.

To correct the problem, we will re-air the broadcast of that segment during NewsChannel 19 at 10 Sunday night.

You can also watch the interview on the CBS website.

http://www.whnt.com/Global/story.asp?S=7918345

I don't know when they put this message up, but I checked at 9:55 PM, and it wasn't up. So the 10:00 PM rebroadcast (if it happened) was for all intents and purposes, unannounced.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:21 AM
Response to Reply #69
73. Scott Horton has this to say at Harpers tonight,
CBS: More Prosecutorial Misconduct in Siegelman Case Alleged
DEPARTMENT No Comment
BY Scott Horton
PUBLISHED February 24, 2008

CBS aired its long-awaited feature on the prosecution and imprisonment of former Alabama Governor Don E. Siegelman this evening at 7:00. In a stunning move of censorship, the transmission was blocked across the northern third of Alabama by CBS affiliate WHNT, which is owned by interests of the Bass Family. Those who were in the zone of censorship or who missed it, can catch the whole segment here:

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:50 PM
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72. I think we're living in the silently majority times, CatWoman.
:hi:
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Heroman Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:29 AM
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74. I saw the black... (my post from the other thread)
And as much as I hate to say it, it looked like a technical issue.

When 60min was supposed to start it went black.
I changed from the HD station to the SD one to see if it was just the HD going out. It was black on SD too.
So I sat and waited, expecting the show to come back on any second.

What happened then was the screen would flicker briefly, like they were changing signals or something.
Then the audio to 60 min would come in for 10 seconds or so, then go away again.
Then the screen would flash a few more times to various shades of black (difrent signal strengths or something I guess, I would call it interference really).
At one point it even flashed up what looked like a celing with a production light in the shot. Like they activated a camera that was pointed at the celing. That went away after about 20-30 seconds.
The audio came in and out several times.

And at about 6 or 7 min into the show, 60 min came back on and I was able to see the second half of the piece about the Governor.
It was about half way through the piece, because I watched it again in full when WHNT re-aired it during thier 10pm news, and I had already seen about half.



So like I said, to me it looked like a legit technical issue.
I don't know who's fault it was. But it looked like a real technical problem they were trying to fix.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:10 AM
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75. wha...?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:19 AM
Response to Reply #74
76. And that's our story and we're sticking to it...now....
Originally, they blamed New York...

Then, when New York said "It wasn't us", they blamed a 12 minute receiver failure.

See:

Scott Horton: CBS Says WHNT-TV Lying About "Technical Problem"...
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #74
81. ??
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #74
90. Oh...well that explains it.
:silly:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:42 AM
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79. During the 2000 presidential campaign,
Al Gore was scheduled to appear on Oprah, and I remember it was a highly-anticipated event. 5 minutes before the show started, my cable channel picture suddenly became scrambled, and the sound went mute. I flipped through the rest of the cable channels--they were all fine. I went back to the channel with Oprah, and figuring it was a temporary glitch, waited for it to come back on. It did--one hour and ten minutes later...just after Oprah went off the air. All of my cable channels were fine for the rest of the day.

Back then, there wasn't a DU for me to verify if the same thing happened to other people. :shrug:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:19 AM
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80. Holy shit
Did they block youtube too?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:18 AM
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82. And not one single soul alive will do one single thing about it.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:23 AM
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83. It will be interesting to see if there are any "hmmm..." stories in Alabama papers about it - OR -
If many Alabamans even care.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #83
88. Amy Goodman reported this today. n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:03 PM
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86. I Knew This Would Happen.... Censoring the Truth
Gee.... what's the matter in North Alabama. Powerful people afraid the truth might get out? Gee... I wonder why.....
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 12:31 PM
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87. I'd love to see
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 12:31 PM by GTRMAN
the station's traffic log and discrepancy report for that segment....could be very telling....:evilgrin:
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 01:01 PM
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89. whoa....now wait just a damn minute!!
I just caught this bit...

NewsChannel 19 lost our program feed from CBS. Upon investigation, WHNT has learned that the CBS receiver that allows us to receive programming from CBS failed. WHNT engineers responded as quickly as possible to restore the feed at 6:12 p.m.


What about the backup receiver? I would find it next to impossible to believe that they didn't have a secondary receiver tuned to the feed...at a CBS affiliate? Give me a break. All the Master Control Operator should have to do is hot key the backup to air if the primary failed. 30 seconds of black, understandable....12 minutes, no way in hell.

The scent of male bovine fecal matter hangs heavy in the air over this one....:eyes:



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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 03:45 PM
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91. Catholic book banning
made instant best-sellers of the publications that were banned.

:popcorn::popcorn:I hope this "accidental" blackout totally backfires on the censors and their coporate/political bosses.:popcorn::popcorn:





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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 04:01 PM
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92. Boycott WHNT
Encourage anybody you know who advertises on television in Alabama to boycott WHNT in protest. It is only when they see that their actions affect their pocketbooks will they begin to learn. Such blatant censorship simply cannot be tolerated.
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DVickers Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:35 PM
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94. WHNT Apology & Siegelman Segment to Re-air at 6pm
Hello everyone!  

I am the Station Manager/News Director at WHNT-TV.  I feel
compelled to post to this site today to clear up the
misconceptions about what happened at our station on Sunday,
Feb. 24.  Last night at the worst possible moment, we had a
technical failure of a piece of equipment that allows us to
receive feeds from CBS.  It happened just as the 60 Minutes
segment on former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman was about to
air.

Initially, we thought the problem was on CBS' end.  That was a
logical assumption on our part as we had problems just 24
hours prior during a CBS televised basketball game.  Upon
further investigation, WHNT learned that the problem was on
our end at the station.  WHNT engineers responded as quickly
as possible to diagnose the problem and were able to restore
the feed with a few minutes left in the Siegelman segment.  

As you might imagine with a story of such intense local
interest, our phone lines and emails were bombarded with
complaints and rightly so.  That's why we requested and were
granted permission from CBS to re-air the segment in its
entirety on Sunday night during our late news, NewsChannel 19
at 10pm.   We also posted a link on WHNT.com to a streaming
video clip of the entire segment.

Still, many people indicated to us that they missed it at 10pm
because they did not get word that it would re-air.  So, once
again we asked and were granted permission from CBS to again
re-air the "Prosecution of Don Siegelman" segment. 
It will air again tonight (Monday) on NewsChannel 19 at 6pm.  
We are abbreviating our news, weather and sportscasts in order
to do this.  And, we are pre-empting all commercials in order
to make this happen.

We have received hundreds of emails and phone calls from
viewers who accused us purposely sabotaging the broadcast for
political reasons.  I can understand how people might think
that was the case.  But, I assure you that it is patently
false.  We have been working to remedy this problem.  CBS has
bent over backwards to help us through this very regrettable
situation.  If we were conspiring to blackout this story from
the public, we wouldn't have promoted it heavily in our
newscasts in the days preceding.  No one would invite such a
public relations nightmare like this on themselves.

We apologize to all viewers of the Tennessee Valley for the
interruption.  We assure them and you there was no intent
whatsoever to keep anyone from seeing the broadcast. 

I hope readers of this forum will accept our sincere
apologies.  

Anyone who wishes to engage in further dialogue about this,
may do so by emailing me directly at denise.vickers@whnt.com.

Sincerely,
Denise Vickers
Station Manager/News Director
WHNT-TV

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #94
95. So you're giving 25 minutes of warning....
:eyes:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:46 PM
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96. Isn't Alabama time 1 hr 25 minutes?
That still isn't an awful lot of time, but they are giving up most of their news segment, that is a pretty heavy watched time.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #94
97. thank you for posting this
n/t
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #94
99. so you mean to tell me that
a CBS affiliate only has one Sat receiver that is capable of receiving the feed? I work for a station that is way down the food chain from there and we have a second receiver that is usually tuned to our main network feed as a backup unless it is tasked with catching backhauls. In the event of a main feed failure, my operators know to ditch the backhaul and switch the secondary receiver to the main feed to avoid missing any more programming than is absoultely necessary.

I would be more than surprised to find out that a CBS affiliate doesn't have the type of redundancy our 'lil 'ol station has. Quite frankly, if one of my operators gave the explanation you just gave for missing that much of a program with that type of interest, I'd be tempted to show them the door.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #99
100. An investigation (perhaps part of a Waxman hearing into the Siegelman incident) seems warranted ...
Too convienient...

Add to that the Bass family connections....
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #99
108. same here, but it definitely could happen
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #94
101. C'mon Denise! No backup feed? Denise, you know this was
wrong on so many levels. This is America and YOU are an Amercican. You KNOW this is wrong. Can you continue with this and still look your family and neighbors in the eyes?

I'm sorry, Denise. I'm not buying it.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #101
102. Calculate the odds...
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 06:11 PM by Junkdrawer
How many hours of trouble-free pass through....

Then a (dual?) equipment failure at JUST THIS MINUTE???
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #101
104. exactly
even if the dish to the secondary was on another bird, any operator worth his salt would have had the program back on in a minute or less. First, you get the show back on the air, then you look for the problem on the main receiver. The length of the discrepancy is what sets off red flags with me.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #94
106. methinks you're full of shit
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #94
109. Your story doesn't hold water. I call "bullshit". nm
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #94
111. Think: Dark Blue Suit:
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 07:26 PM by Junkdrawer
I see many FCC and Congressional Hearings in your future...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2922167
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #111
112. Yes, this ain't no "Tits on Tee Vee", "Superbowl / Super feigned outrage" story
Broadcast TV is regulated by the FCC and our Congress has oversight responsibility for the FCC.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:34 PM
Response to Reply #111
114. ruh roh!!
I wonder if anyone has signed off on yesterday's station traffic log. I wouldn't touch that hot potato with a ten foot pole!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #94
113. WELCOME to DU Denise.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #94
115. You've neglected a little thing we like to call "The DU Factor".
We LIVE to shine the spotlight upon little "glitches" like this- prevaricate all you desire, but remember our eyes are upon you now.

You are SO busted.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #94
133. I'm not interested in a bridge, either. n/t
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 07:53 PM
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116. By trying to hide and cover up their initial crimes, they commit
even more crimes. If the next President is a Dem (and if it isn't I may explode on the spot) you MUST clear out the partisan hacks, particularly from DoJ, and investigate eve-ry-thing these Anti-Patriots have done. Otherwise, all you do, Mr/Mrs Prez, will be undone by the next Repub in the Executive Branch.
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:20 PM
Response to Original message
118. A friend sent me this
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/media-blackout-update-pakistan-and-alabama/index.html?hp

I used to work for the ABC affiliate in Huntsville who is in direct competition with WHNT. There is more than one backup feed.

Everyone in Huntsville loves to hate Dan Satterfield who is the hysterical, tornado behind every bush, weatherman for WHNT. He overrides the national weather service and calls his own tornado warnings.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #118
120. Interesting read. Thanks!
:hi:
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #118
122. more than one backup
makes it even fishier...no explanation has been given as to why they didn't immediately switch to a backup when the main failed. I can't even begin to believe 12 minutes was missed with the explanation that has been given.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:25 PM
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119. Fucking fascist cowards.
I spit in their virtual faces.
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Heroman Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:36 PM
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121. One thing I've learned from this...
Democrats are no better than republicans.

Don was tried unjustly and sent to prison.
Now WHNT is being tried unjustly and having its reputation murdered.

You people need to get a grip.
On another forum they said there was no Engineer in the building since it was the weekend. Total skeleton crew.
Seems to me it would take about 8 min or so for someone to drive in and push the backup feed button.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #121
123. oh go Cheney yourself
:nuke:
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #123
126. pepperoni?
mushrooms, canadian bacon?

:rofl:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #126
127. ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
:9
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #127
128. damn
It's still alive :popcorn:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #128
129. IT'S ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #129
130. ROFL
poor mods must be working overtime tonight....
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #121
124. If they were running automated and unmanned
why didn't the manager just say so above? She didn't. If there is someone from the WHNT engineering staff on another forum explaining things, please point me to it. I'm in TV and have been for 10 years, I'd like to hear it straight from the horse's mouth.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #124
132. Here's a horse on the Times Daily in Florence
carter.watkins
New Kid on the Block
Posted 25 February 2008 04:17 PM Hide Post
Have you ever heard of Murphy's Law? Unfortunately it got NewsChannel 19 last night.

Here we have a politically heated story of intense interest to Alabamians that is scheduled to air on "60 Minutes." We promoted the story throughout many of our newscasts the week before. Then at the worst possible moment, we lose the program.

At first we thought it was on CBS's end because we'd had some problems with their feed during basketball Saturday night. Even worse, it's the weekend and there's no engineer in the building to fix it. It took 8 minutes to figure out what in the world was going on... skeleton crew and all... and fix it. But the fact that it just so happened to occur during this story that is filled with allegations of a conspiracy, feeds the conspiracy theorists themselves that this is no accident at all. No it doesn't look good. That's why we call it a P.R. nightmare. But I can assure you it was nothing more than a problem with our receiver. That's why other stations across the country could get the program even if we couldn't.

We apologize. And we will air the "60 Minutes" segment again on NewsChannel 19 at 6:00 tonight.

For those who don't believe us, there's not much I can say. To those inconvenienced, I offer my sincere apologies.

On a personal note, I can tell you I could never be part of a news organization that is anything but objective, fair and balanced. I can assure you this was nothing but a technical problem that caused us great grief.

We thank you for your continued viewership and for being a part of our NewsChannel 19 family.

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Heroman Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 03:59 AM
Response to Reply #124
136. From WHNT's own message board.


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Posted by: whntAdmin (IP Logged)
Date: February 25, 2008 03:09PM


Thank you, Sane Person.

Thank you. We truly appreciate you giving us the benefit of the doubt.

This happened at the worst time - a weekend evening, with just a few people in the building. Had it been a weekday, or weeknight even, we'd have had an engineer in the building to quickly fix the error. However, one got here as quickly as possible -- thank goodness he lives so close to the station.

We are also hoping to get permission from CBS to re-air the piece this evening, in its entirety. Originally, we thought that might not work out.. but the tide appears to be changing. CBS did bend over backwards to allow us to rebroadcast the piece last night at 10pm - they normally do not do that.

I will post information here on that shortly if it does work out.

Again, thank you. We appreciate your support. We're just human beings here, and stuff does break, you're right.

:)


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Why didn't they say so sooner?
Who wants to let the world know that their station is unmanned.
Thats just asking for more "technical problems" to turn up at the worst time.
You don't normaly advertise the fact that any schmo with a crowbar and bolt cutters can sneak in and hijack the airwaves, am I right?
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-26-08 09:47 AM
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139. your earlier post
seems to contradict what they posted.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2918171&mesg_id=2919579

Now, if you saw them apparently *working on it* trying to get the feed back on the air for the first 6-7 minutes, that would indicate that someone actually was there. Why they didn't punch up the backup feed has not been adequeately explained to me. I manage a television station for a living, so I know bullshit when I hear it.

The station I manage runs automated part of the time too. No one knows better than I how an automated playlist can foul up. If I could see their traffic log, discrepancy report and automation as-run log, I might believe it was an error. But as long as they keep feeding ever changing bullshit explanations, I see no reason to consider them credible. Whoever signs off on their station log better think long and hard before they put the ink to it, if it is not correct and they know it, they're committing a felony.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #121
125. dupe
Edited on Mon Feb-25-08 08:42 PM by GTRMAN
delete
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 09:41 PM
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131. Ho Boy. In no way does off-gassing at DU equate to jailing a man.
Nice try with the obligatory STFU post, it came in when it was supposed to but you fumbled a little on the scolding.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 10:02 PM
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134. What utter cr@p, HEROman.
lol
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:52 PM
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135. Ope u i...ope u i !
:banghead:
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