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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:37 PM
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Clawback: How should the next (Democratic) president handle this?
From the NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/world/europe/24putin.html?ex=1204434000&en=b93eb30a8461bd3f&ei=5065&partner=MYWAY

NIZHNY NOVGOROD, Russia — Shortly before parliamentary elections in December, foremen fanned out across the sprawling GAZ vehicle factory here, pulling aside assembly-line workers and giving them an order: vote for President Vladimir V. Putin’s party or else. They were instructed to phone in after they left their polling places. Names would be tallied, defiance punished.

The city’s children, too, were pressed into service. At schools, teachers gave them pamphlets promoting “Putin’s Plan” and told them to lobby their parents. Some were threatened with bad grades if they failed to attend “Children’s Referendums” at polling places, a ploy to ensure that their parents would show up and vote for the ruling party.

Around the same time, volunteers for an opposition party here, the Union of Right Forces, received hundreds of calls at all hours, warning them to stop working for their candidates. Otherwise, you will be hurt, the callers said, along with the rest of your family.

Over the past eight years, in the name of reviving Russia after the tumult of the 1990s, Mr. Putin has waged an unforgiving campaign to clamp down on democracy and extend control over the government and large swaths of the economy. He has suppressed the independent news media, nationalized important industries, smothered the political opposition and readily deployed the security services to carry out the Kremlin’s wishes.


No matter how funky this present administration gets, it is helpful to remember it can ALWAYS be worse.

That said, is there anything that the next administration can do to slow or stop the rollback of democracy in Russia? Should we do anything at all?

Duke
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:39 PM
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1. It's not a problem...George W Bush looked into his eyes and saw his soul. (no comment on what it
looked like)
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:58 PM
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6. OH NOES...I BEEN HYP-MO-TIZED!!
:)

Duke
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:40 PM
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2. We should set a good example, and the the Russians sort themselves out
They tried democracy, and found they didn't much fancy it. Vietnam and Iraq should demonstrate to us quite adequately the limitations of trying to enforce "democracy" elsewhere.
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Duke Newcombe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:55 PM
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5. Setting a good example...
...is definitely a good idea. However, if the present direction continues, we'll be right back to the "good old days" of the 70s/80s, with all of the concomitant posturing and meddling that ensues. If going back to that time will help Putin consolidate his power, he's demonstrated a willingness to go there.

And as for the people: most fancied it fine, but the rush of democracy opened the government up to even greater corruption that was present during the Communist Party's rule, and the expected cradle to grave "care" that disappeared dismayed some of the population. Add organized crime stepping up their influence, and it's no amazement that many "didn't fancy it much".

Duke
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:40 PM
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3. The GOP doesn't need an army of thugs to steal an election.
Just a handful of corrupt computer programmers.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:41 PM
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4. It bothers me that I have no idea where any candidate stand
on this topic. Anyone know?
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