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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:07 AM
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Disturbing New Photos From Abu Ghraib-NSFW
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 10:39 AM by Ichingcarpenter
TED 2008: How Good People Turn Evil, From Stanford to Abu Ghraib




Monterey, California -- Psychologist Philip Zimbardo has seen good people turn evil, and he thinks he knows why.

Zimbardo will speak Thursday afternoon at the TED conference, where he plans to illustrate his points by showing a three-minute video, obtained by Wired.com, that features many previously unseen photographs from the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq (disturbing content).

More of the photos are worse than this and many have seen them before.


Photo link
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2008/02/gallery_abu_ghraib

Story link
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/02/ted_zimbardo



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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:14 AM
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1. How could a man let himself act like that? My God.
Thank you for being the one to break this news. Sure hope this will break the silence on Abu Ghraib. This needs to be opened and cleansed, doesn't it?

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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:20 AM
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3. This is the Direct Link to the story and Photos from Wired News
Needless to say most of the photos are even more disturbing,
which are not for the faint of heart.

It still made me ill.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:19 AM
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2. There is another in which the prisoner was "knee capped"
Edited on Thu Feb-28-08 10:39 AM by ThomWV
Blood all over the place, one of his knee caps is already taped up (with duct tape) on the other knee cap, where the duct tape has been torn off; it is laying in the foreground of the photo, you can see two long slice - straight lines apparently inflicted by knife - on either side of the knee cap. It brings to mind a guard playing doctor and attempting his first surgery.

This is our military. These are our sons. This is us.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:22 AM
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4. !!!
I saw that one..
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:28 AM
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5. link?
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:31 AM
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7. Edited now for link I was a little shaken by the photos
when I posted this.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:37 AM
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8. i know what you're saying, i kinda regret looking at that link
:(
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-28-08 10:29 AM
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6. We are the hollow men.
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

We have heard the whimper before, in Dachau, in Tuol Sleng Prison (Phnom Penn), in the Hanoi Hilton...

The whimper at Abu Ghraib became screams and yet we refuse to hear.

I tell you this, no eternal reward will forgive us now....
-Jim Morrison
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