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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:20 AM
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MSNBC Breaking: Blast outside US base in Afghanistan; Cheney Unhurt
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:21 AM
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1. Looks like they missed him.
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Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:17 AM
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22. Bummer. n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:22 AM
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2. Anyone seen Ole Whitty lately?
:)
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:22 AM
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3. They say the snow has melted
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 01:24 AM by brettdale
So the insurgents are starting to attack.

This was going to happen according to some experts, the next few months are going to get worse, if that is possible.

So much for all the stories of things are getting better.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:23 AM
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Oooh, time to drum up some patriotic sympathy.
Wow, they're desperate, staging crap like this.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:24 AM
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6. Ah Ha
Yep Im sure Faux will play that card.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 11:23 AM
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27. They're all playing the card. Check out talkingpointsmemo this morning.
One of the readers there agrees with me, but expresses the assessment much more clearly, as follows:

I think you can push your logic a step further. Sadly, attacks on US bases, even in Kabul, are far from unusual, and rarely deemed newsworthy - there were 139 suicide bombings last year in Afghanistan, and the number has been rising rapidly. This attacker did nothing to suggest he was attempting to strike a high-value target - he did not, for example, hurtle himself at a passing convoy or manage to infiltrate a secure area. It's certainly plausible that, as you suggest, his handlers noticed heightened security or preparations, and decided to time their attack to coincide with whatever might be going on, but there's not particular reason to believe that. But because a Taliban spokesman was clever enough to link the attack to Cheney, a fairly routine bombing is now a leading story around the world, and the Taliban has been able to turn a partly thwarted attack (the bomber was forced to detonate his load outside the base) into an enormous propoganda coup.

I'd note that coalition forces and Cheney's security folks seem to have reached this conclusion - if they really thought that the attack was based on a security breach, they likely would have scrapped the rest of the visit, or at least altered his scheduled itinerary.

I actually think this is worth saying loudly. The public tends to rally around leaders, however unpopular, when they are attacked. It's in the Taliban's interest to convince the world that they're well-organized enough to have targeted Cheney, and in Cheney's interest not to expend too much effort rebutting that claim. But it's in our national interest not to take the Taliban's claim seriously in the absence of corroborating evidence - buying into this unsubstatiated claim undermines our efforts to reconstruct the war-torn country, and bolsters Cheney's reputation at the very moment he was becoming a laughingstock. Coalition forces were the apparent target this morning, and it is they who deserve our sympathy.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com

Remember the grenade incident when bush was in Russia or somewhere and how that was hyped to the max?
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:23 AM
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4. watch out for those "last throes"!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:23 AM
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5. They like Cheney as much as we do
Blasts wouldn't hurt Cheney or his wife. They have ice water in their veins.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:24 AM
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7. uhhhh...
nevermind.

:evilgrin:
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:24 AM
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8. Bummer!
That's too bad! :hippie:
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:25 AM
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9. Just hand Dick his trusty old $6,000 shotgun. He's like Rambo
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:25 AM
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10. The Undead Is Unhurt....nt
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:35 AM
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13. oooh... beat me to it!
:+
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:26 AM
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11. Story link
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1104AP_Afghan_Explosion.html

KABUL, Afghanistan -- An explosion outside the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan went off Tuesday as Vice President Dick Cheney was visiting, causing an unknown number of casualties but apparently not putting the vice president in danger, officials said.

The blast happened at the first gate outside the base at Bagram, and there were an unknown number of casualties, said Kabir Ahmad, the district chief of the Bagram region.

Maj. William Mitchell said it did not appear the explosion was intended as a threat to the vice president, who was "safely inside the base" during the blast.
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:32 AM
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12. 2 dead, 12 wounded, Cheney "safely inside" at the time
The blast happened near the first security gate outside the base at Bagram, killing two people and wounding 12, said Kabir Ahmad, the district chief of the Bagram region.

Maj. William Mitchell said it did not appear the explosion was intended as a threat to the vice president.

"He wasn't near the site of the explosion," Mitchell said. "He was safely within the base at the time of the explosion."
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:36 AM
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14. That sucks...and the blast is bad news too.
:evilgrin:
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 01:37 AM
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15. I'm sure that Iran had something to do with this
:sarcasm:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:06 AM
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16. This was a gigantic explosion many dead according to BBC
Just heard this
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:07 AM
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17. Update: 18-20 dead (15 Afghanis, 3 "foreign soldiers")
according to CNN International
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:08 AM
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18. yet again, a US cruise missile misses a target in Afghanistan
we just can't seem to nail the evil sonsabitches when they are in Afghanistan.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:11 AM
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19. Death Toll risen to 20
According to Sky News UK
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:11 AM
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20. First the Air Force 2 problem, now this. Karma??? n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:13 AM
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21. I must say I said a number of evil things when I heard that news.
ThingsI'm too ashamed to even post HERE! Not to mention,I'd probably be carted off toGitmo!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 02:34 AM
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23. The cynic in me goes
Edited on Tue Feb-27-07 02:39 AM by nadinbrzezinski
who the FU is running security for such a bullet magnet?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:12 AM
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24. They outsourced it


to a guy who wrote pamphlets for Focus on the Family.

He didn't have a whole lot of experience but he's a solid Republican and it helped James Dobson forget the whole Cheney's-lesbian-daughter-having-a-baby thing.

:sarcasm:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:14 AM
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25. You know seven years ago any of this would
seem like a fantasy, or a plot for a book

This administration, no way in hell I could sell it as anythign else than history... not only is it bad fiction but even worst commedy
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 03:18 AM
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26. Why am I suspicious?
That's sad.
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OregonBi Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-27-07 12:49 PM
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28. Cheney is a hypocrite!
His very own daughter, his very own flesh and blood is gay and he sides with the fundies just because of politics!

How terrible can a person be that their politics are more important than their own family?
Too bad the Taliban were such poor shots. Maybe they need that CIA train Bin Laden got back in the 80's!
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