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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:21 AM
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McCain and the Keating 5 - How much dirt is out there
Would you guys please post some links to all the dirt on McCain and his involvement in the Keating 5 scandal.

From what I'm hearing in the media the same CEOs of all those S&Ls that failed 20 years ago are now the CEOs of all these BIG financial institutions that the Federal Government is bailing out. Also if you look at GWB's top 10 2004 campaign contributor list it reads like the Who's Who of the troubled banking industry.

I'm convinced McCain is still tied in with these guys
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:30 AM
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1. I ran into a thread on this once a few months back.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:37 AM
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2. Keep em coming - this is some juicy stuff
"Mr. Keating, his associates, and his friends contributed $56,000 for Senator McCain's two House races in 1982 and 1984, and $54,000 for his 1986 Senate race. Mr. Keating also provided his corporate plane and/or arranged for payment for the use of commercial or private aircraft on several occasions for travel by Senator McCain and his family, for which Senator McCain ultimately provided reimbursement when called upon to do so. Mr. Keating also allowed Senator McCain and his family to vacation with Mr. Keating and his family, at a home provided by Mr. Keating in the Bahamas, in each of the calendar years 1983 through 1986.

http://www.nationalreview.com/contributors/levin040501.shtml
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:54 AM
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11. My hourly rate is far higher than what it would cost you to donate to DU...
so you could do your own searches.

The cage matches in GD-P alone are worth it, and you'd be getting the (mostly) sane dialog in GD as a free bonus.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:45 AM
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3. Its not about the dirt.. because their are piles of steaming shit all around
McCain.. Its about what the M$M is going to report. They have directed the discourse of this nation for far too long. Their corporate masters tell them what to say and what not to say. They have a bubble around McCain... AND the Dems are a whitch hunt.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 08:53 AM
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4. The Keating 5 was a major scandal
But it hasn't stopped the people of Arizona from electing and relecting McCain to the Senate for over 20 years.
And I don't think that it will prevent Repukes around the country from voting for him.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:02 AM
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5. Aren't we still paying off the S&L bail out
I heard estimates of 2010 and 2025 before we would be done paying off the S&L bail out with out Tax dollars.

So No I don't believe it is a "Dead Issue" because we are still paying for McCain's corruption
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:22 AM
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6. I think it's a dead issue for Republicans
I care and so do you and many other Democrats.
But it was Big news for a long time in this state. And he was still reelected over and over again. We saw many poignant interviews with people who lost their life savings with Lincoln Savings and Loan.
Repukes are USED to corruption. They won't let this 20 year old scandal stand in the way of another 4 years in the White House.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:25 AM
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8. But what about all the independent voters?
"Keating 5" sounds like a bunch of criminals and so we should repeat it over and over again. Take a page from their book. Even say that McBush was one of the "Keating 5" which was a criminal conspiracy. No explanations, no need to defend the argument, just say it over and over again. Hey, it has worked for the repukes.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:31 AM
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9. Well it never worked in Arizona
Edited on Sun Mar-23-08 09:40 AM by DesertRat
But you can give it a try. The media doesn't care and probably will just remind you that 4 out the 5 Senators involved were Democrats.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:38 AM
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10. Given the NEW Mortgage Crisis is hitting Repukes hard
Given the Greedy Nature of most Repukes, many of them have been caught with their collective pants down in the "New and Improved" Mortgage Crisis.

Take my neighbor for instance. Card carrying NRA member, devote Rush Limpdick listener, just admitted to me 2 days ago, he will not be investing anymore money into his house because he will most likely be losing it in the next 9 - 12 months.

I heard on Air America yesterday these failed CEOs are the SAME CEOs that brought us the S&L scandal

SHOW ME the LINK
please
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 11:13 AM
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12. Arizona isn't the entire country
It's worth a try.

Or, why does this stuff work for the repukes while it does not work for us?

If the rest of the Keating 5 were repukes and Hillary had been one of them, we know one thing for sure: the repukes would be calling Hillary one of the "criminal Keating 5" over and over and over without ever mentioning the others, and ignoring anyone who pointed out that the rest were repukes.





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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-23-08 09:24 AM
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7. Keating 5 Scandal is Now Considered "Quaint"
Maybe others here are Olympics junkies, but the last several Olympics had positive puff pieces on Charles Keating. For those that are unfamiliar: Charles Keating's grandson is popular swimmer Gary Hall Jr. The pieces showed Gary explaining that his grandfather took responsibility for his actions, shots of the whole happy family, and clips of inmates with huge 'Good Luck' signs. They had a very redemptive quality about them and were rather heartwarming-- unless you knew the whole story.

Plus, Keating is insanely anti-porn which the far right would dig.

I agree that McCain was tied to these guys. Unfortunately, I think it would be too hard to explain to the average person the ramifications of the Keating 5.
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