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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:30 AM
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So? ... A Note from Michael Moore
Monday, March 24th, 2008

Friends,

It would have to happen on Easter Sunday, wouldn't it, that the 4,000th American soldier would die in Iraq. Play me that crazy preacher again, will you, about how maybe God, in all his infinite wisdom, may not exactly be blessing America these days. Is anyone surprised?

4,000 dead. Unofficial estimates are that there may be up to 100,000 wounded, injured, or mentally ruined by this war. And there could be up to a million Iraqi dead. We will pay the consequences of this for a long, long time. God will keep blessing America.

And where is Darth Vader in all this? A reporter from ABC News this week told Dick Cheney, in regards to Iraq, "two-thirds of Americans say it's not worth fighting." Cheney cut her off with a one word answer: "So?"

"So?" As in, "So what?" As in, "F*** you. I could care less."

I would like every American to see Cheney flip the virtual bird at the them, the American people. Click here and pass it around. Then ask yourself why we haven't risen up and thrown him and his puppet out of the White House.

The Democrats have had the power to literally pull the plug on this war for the past 15 months -- and they have refused to do so. What are we to do about that? Continue to sink into our despair? Or get creative? Real creative. I know there are many of you reading this who have the chutzpah and ingenuity to confront your local congressperson. Will you? For me?

Cheney spent Wednesday, the 5th anniversary of the war, not mourning the dead he killed, but fishing off the Sultan of Oman's royal yacht. So? Ask your favorite Republican what they think of that.

The Founding Fathers would never have uttered the presumptuous words, "God Bless America." That, to them, sounded like a command instead of a request, and one doesn't command God, even if they are America. In fact, they were worried God would punish America. During the Revolutionary War, George Washington feared that God would react unfavorably against his soldiers for the way they were behaving. John Adams wondered if God might punish America and cause it to lose the war, just to prove His point that America was not worthy. They and the others believed it would be arrogant on their part to assume that God would single out America for a blessing. What a long road we have traveled since then.

I see that Frontline on PBS this week has a documentary called "Bush's War." That's what I've been calling it for a long time. It's not the "Iraq War." Iraq did nothing. Iraq didn't plan 9/11. It didn't have weapons of mass destruction. It DID have movie theaters and bars and women wearing what they wanted and a significant Christian population and one of the few Arab capitals with an open synagogue.

But that's all gone now. Show a movie and you'll be shot in the head. Over a hundred women have been randomly executed for not wearing a scarf. I'm happy, as a blessed American, that I had a hand in all this. I just paid my taxes, so that means I helped to pay for this freedom we've brought to Baghdad. So? Will God bless me?

God bless all of you in this Easter Week as we begin the 6th year of Bush's War.

God help America. Please.

Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:39 AM
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1. Not Bush's War, GOP's war n/t
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 06:29 AM
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62. Damn right it is! I pin all of Bush's screwups to the republican party!
After all they were a BIG PART OF IT!
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 05:51 AM
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2. About cutting the funding...
That won't end it. Anyone with the slightest bit of insight into the malevolence that is Bush should know that.

Funding or no funding, Bush would find a way to keep his war going. Blaming the Dems is essentially putting a gun to your own head and pulling the trigger. Let's not forget the real enemy here, Bush and the RePuke chickenshits.
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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:20 PM
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36. Yes !
Cut the funding & Bush'l steal our SS income & I'll have to become a Walmart greeter, instead of working towards a career goal I have set aside all my life for pressing responsibilities!
It's hard enough now with -$200. every single month for business startup!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:35 PM
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38. Agreed.
You beat me to the punch. :hi:
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InsultComicDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:57 AM
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3. cheney sez
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:04 AM
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4. "Then ask yourself why we haven't risen up and thrown him and his puppet out of the White House."
Mike is spot on as usual.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:40 AM
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5. The votes are not there.
As much as I would like to see Bush and Cheney thrown out on their ears, and in utter disgrace, we don't have the votes.
For the most part, we haven't even been able to override a Presidential veto.
With that in mind, it seems a better strategy to put our energy and resources into electing a Democrat for the White House this year.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:42 AM
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6. You actually think he's talking about "votes?"
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:53 AM
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8. I thought you were talking about votes

when you asked why we haven't risen up and thrown them out of the White House
Did you mean impeachment or a coup d'etat?

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:54 AM
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9. I'm quoting Moore. Read the OP
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:59 AM
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10. I read the OP
So do you think he meant impeachment or coup d'etat?
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:05 AM
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13. I won't speak on his behalf. However, when he says...
"Then ask yourself why we haven't risen up and thrown him and his puppet out of the White House," coupled with criticisms of the inaction of the ineffectual dem congress, I suppose he's referring to insurrection.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:09 AM
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15. well hey ....
count me in!
:hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:03 AM
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11. The votes are there
It's not about 60 votes. David Swanson has repeatedly debunked this talking point right here on DU.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:07 AM
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14. And an unfortunate "talking point" to find at DU, at that
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:11 AM
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16. Thanks, I'll have to look that up
I'm just mentioning the legal requirement of 67 Senators needed to vote for impeachment.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:07 AM
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19. 41 senators voting No or not showing up blocks a bill
They can stop funding the war with 41 votes.

They could have stopped FISA with 41 votes.

They can shut down everything the republicans and their president want to do with 41 votes.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:16 AM
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23. "America has ONE corporate party with TWO right wings." - Gore Vidal
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:31 AM
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25. Bingo!
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:08 PM
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46. the votes would have come as the crimes are exposed.
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 09:10 PM by zonmoy
the cabals crimes are so bad that any repuke that would have voted to not impeach after all the evidence is out in the open would have shown themselves to be criminals of greater level than the cabal themselves.

same goes for the democrats of course. which means that since they are covering it up they are as bad criminals or worse than the repukes.
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Shae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:45 AM
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7. God Bless ...
Michael Moore

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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:03 AM
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12. Michael Moore nailed it, as usual. k&r
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:11 AM
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17. Perfect.
MM rocks.
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jmondine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 01:03 PM
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28. Well, with one exception
You can't "literally pull the plug" on a war, since a war isn't literally an electrical appliance with a plug that goes into a socket.

Yes, I'm a grammar nerd. :p
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:18 PM
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49. You fucking freeper!
Edited on Mon Mar-24-08 10:20 PM by tavalon
Keep it up and you will get no dinner when you get home! Or sex! Well, maybe not so much on the sex thing, but dinner is definitely out.

Edited for the humor impaired: The nerd in question is my hubby and he, sir, is no freeper!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:07 PM
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51. Hah!
I haven't got alerted yet. I've never had the opportunity to be so amusingly brazen before! And I've gotten away with it. Maybe. Snicker. We'll see.

This was, BTW, a long winded kick for MM.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:48 AM
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18. A close look at why Cheney was right to say 'so?'
Moore makes a fantastic point, and he avoids making it too Primary consicous, but let's just be mature Democrats here and admit that we as a Party rejected all of the candidates who stood up to Bush in any way, and we have made frontrunners out of two who have voted along with the war like good little mongers. Iraq and the war on our civil liberties, as we are voting now for candidates who rushed to extend the Patriot Act, pass Cheney's Engergy Bill, in short, both of our candidates have done everything Bush asked of them. And those who did not have been sent packing.
Cheney says "So?" because he is right. The 'opposition' from the American people is without meaning, without results. Voting for the war and the other atrocities of Bush, in fact, seems to be rewarded by Democrats, not punished. So salesman Cheney does not really care if we like it, because we keep buying it anyway. The opposition is without meaning. It is and always has been, a sham.
For months on end Reid and Pelosi were called traitors for not responding to some imaginary 'mandate' to leave Iraq. And then y'all voted to promote those who voted just as they did, proving them correct. There was noting to gain by getting out, and obviously the White House to be gained by voting to stay.
Moore says: "The Democrats have had the power to literally pull the plug on this war for the past 15 months -- and they have refused to do so." And he's correct. They refused and we promoted them. Kucinich just too short, Dodd was old, too old. Biden not snappy enough. Got to have the two who are most in line with the War on Terror! Albert Gore will not be seen in public with us you might notice. Who can blame him?
Politically,Cheney is more right on than we'd like to admit. Who cares if we disagree if there are not only no repercussions but the opposite. Rejection of those who agree with us, promotion of those that continuosly fund Bush's war.
It gets old. This notion that one can be ethical while promoting and funding and arraging for things one claims to dispise. " I disagree, but I'll pay for it anyway", is that Iraq, McClurkin, Ferrao or cluster bombs? Cheney is so right. Who cares if you don't agree, if you are going to pay for it anyway? Fund it, decry it, fund it, call it stupid, fund it, call it pathetic, but fund fund fund.
Our 'anti-war' candidate at this point has voted for every dime he could, the Patriot Act, the Energy Bill and has opposed Impeachment. The definition of 'anti-war' has been adjusted to include those who support the war, but complain about it as they vote for it. Let's be honest and clear: opposition does not include funding. Funding is supporting the war. Period. Letting these candidates lie and take on the cap of peace, while they do in fact have blood all over their votes, as members of the worst Senate in the history of our country.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:13 AM
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22. I encourage you to post this as a seperate OP
Because a lot of people here aren't getting it.

Bushco doesn't care if we are unhappy, as long as we are compliant.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:25 AM
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24. Definitely should be a separate thread!
Please give us some white space between paragraphs!
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How to be positive Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:23 PM
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56. I know great article but...
put some blank spaces between the paragraphs, thx very much.
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Blackdog4241 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:58 PM
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32. Great Post....
Thank You.:toast:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:51 PM
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35. Painful truth there
For the "We haven't got the votes" crowd - it isn't the votes we don't have, it's the political will.

I've been trying hard not to look at this, as this way lies despair, but not looking is not helping.
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:36 PM
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39. Lay it out for us!
Great post, please put this up as separate thread as suggested. Its time people realize what has happened to America.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 10:36 PM
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50. Excellent response
Who let you in anyway? Actual thought and construction of complete sentences is frowned on here, you know.

67% disapprove in principle; maybe 6% actually do anything about it but whine.

We cannot resent him for saying the truth; but we can resent him for gloating about it.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:34 AM
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60. excellent post! (n/t)
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:17 AM
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20. knr
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:20 AM
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21. MM has a marvelous way with words....
Happy Easter y'all.:puke:
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Jeffersons Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:47 AM
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26. K&R
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How to be positive Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:48 PM
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57. help out a newbie here:
what does K&R mean? I know K is kick but what's that?
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 03:06 AM
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59. A kick is any reply, it will "kick" the OP to the top of the topic list making it easier to see
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 03:06 AM by bigbrother05
r = recommend, if you have 5, it will go to the greatest page, again, more will see it.

so a k&r is the shortest way to provide positive feedback on a post you like and want others to see

added: Welcome to DU!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 12:51 PM
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27. That's the first thing I read this morning.
Michael nails it, as usual.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 02:40 PM
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29. .
:kick:
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:03 PM
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30. KICK!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 03:42 PM
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31. K&R
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:01 PM
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33. missed your post earlier thanks
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 04:38 PM
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34. K&R. (nt)
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 06:21 PM
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37. K&R /nt
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:43 PM
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40. Yep - paid my tax bill this weekend...
all five figures worth, feeling absolutely disgusted about how much of that amount is going to these bastards so they can use it to reign death and destruction upon countless thousands of people that did nothing at all to deserve it! :argh:

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:44 PM
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41. And we keep paying.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 07:50 PM
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42. are the american people just braindead???. we should carry this man out of d.c. on a rail...pronto
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:22 PM
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43. F - Michael Moore.
If he and all the other a-holes that voted Nader the first time around had voted Gore there wouldn't be 4000 dead Americans and Millions of dead innocent Iraqis.

Just F him!

:mad:
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:27 PM
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47. Well I for one belive that if it would have been President Gore on 9-11 by the end of the day it
would have been President Lieberman! No doubt about it!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:12 PM
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54. That is an extremely good point
I hadn't thought of that. Wow.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:11 PM
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53. You know what?
He's recognized his mistake and has been working tirelessly in penance. Perhaps you might extend a little absolution, being that is yours and yours alone to give.

I'm sure you've never done anything stupid and self defeating in your exalted life.

Honestly, I'll be happy to get you a step ladder so you can get off that very high horse.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:34 PM
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44. Moore misses the point: it's not Bush's war. It's also the Democrats' war.
It is America's war.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:09 PM
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52. Yes, it is
And while I've done much to protest this thing done in our name, still it continues. And I continue to be ashamed. I'm very sorry, to the world and especially to the Iraqi people, who never, ever deserved this.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 08:42 PM
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45. Six years of war.... A failed foreign war, economy,less safe....And
Cheney spent Wednesday, the 5th anniversary of the war, not mourning the dead he killed, but fishing off the Sultan of Oman's royal yacht. So? Ask your favorite Republican what they think of that.

I see that Frontline on PBS this week has a documentary called "Bush's War." That's what I've been calling it for a long time. It's not the "Iraq War." Iraq did nothing. Iraq didn't plan 9/11. It didn't have weapons of mass destruction. It DID have movie theaters and bars and women wearing what they wanted and a significant Christian population and one of the few Arab capitals with an open synagogue.

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pbca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 09:37 PM
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48. Great letter on America's war
Too many Dems (in congress) have acquiesced to it, gone along with it, helped prop it up while complaining about it to call it anything else.

Everyone who voted for it or who has supported additional funding for it should resign and be deported - to Iraq
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-24-08 11:14 PM
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55. good point Michael
it should be "MAY GOD bless America" not the other way...

4000 dead, as of Easter... it's really a nightmare, we've been hoodwinked, and I'm going to have a HARD TIME not yelling at anyone saying they're voting for McSame

and dammit Hillary, drop out, you're wasting precious Democratic energy, resources, and you've done more to help McCain than the grumpy old jerk could've done on his own.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 02:12 AM
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58. K & R!!! nt
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 04:10 AM
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61. "So?" -- ("Impeach me or shut your impotent mouth.")
It's long past time to stop being "Anti-War" and start being "Pro-Impeachment."

No, you can't ride two horses with the same behind.

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babydollhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 07:36 AM
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63. kick
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