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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 07:12 AM
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The Occupation Project and Sen. Kerry (xpost from MA)
In Sen. Kerry's conference room yesterday:



His staff was really nice & let us all in, considering they were only going to allow five of us into his office. The lady on the right is with MFSO; her son is currently stationed at FOB Liberty, Baghdad. The other 12 old coots were VFP.

Our conference call was scheduled for 20 minutes; Sen. Kerry gave us 25 & then he had to leave for a vote on the floor.

We started by reading a statement:

Statement by the Smedley D. Butler Brigade, Chapter 9 of Veterans For Peace to Senator John Kerry on February 27, 2007

“We have come here, not to the President, because we believe that this body can be responsive to the will of the people, and we believe that the will of the people says that we should be out of Vietnam now.” substitute Iraq for Vietnam
John Kerry, April 1971

“we are here to ask vehemently, where are the leaders of our country? Where is the leadership?”
John Kerry, April 1971

“we should start now to talk about filibustering for the saving of lives and of our country.”
John Kerry, April 1971

“This war was really just as wrong, immoral, and unrelated to our national interests 5 years ago as it is today”
John Kerry, April 1971

“How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?”
John Kerry, April 1971

Senator, Veterans For Peace believes these words to be as true and as applicable today as they were in 1971 when, as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against The War, you testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Back then, you went to Congress to stand up for your Brothers and Sisters who were dying in Vietnam for no good reason. Your Brothers and Sisters are dying in the occupation of Iraq, and they need you to stand up again for them before Congress. Please help us stop this insanity as quickly as possible.

We now ask you to be a profile in courage and work to defeat the supplemental appropriation because this is the only way to end the war. Various bills in Congress are good, but need a 2/3 veto–proof majority which they will never get. The appropriation can be defeated by a simple majority, and in fact by a filibuster of 41 courageous Senators. You cannot be against the war and vote to fund it. If you fund the war, you own the war. The words of Sen. George McGovern on the floor of the Senate in 1970 ring true today:

“Every senator in this chamber is partly responsible for sending 50,000 young Americans to an early grave. This chamber reeks of blood. Every Senator here is partly responsible for that human wreckage at Walter Reed and Bethesda Naval and all across our land - young men without legs, or arms, or genitals, or faces or hopes.”

George Bush will never end the war in Iraq and in fact threatens to now expand it to attack Iran. The only way to end the war is for Congress to use the power of the purse and defund the war. Again and again the Republicans attack you on not “supporting the troops” if you defund the war and the Democrats are silent. Why are you not attacking back, with the following?

  • It is supporting the troops to bring them home from an illegal, immoral war based on lies and deception so no more of them are killed.

  • It is supporting the troops to have no more broken men and women return home with maimed bodies, missing limbs, PTSD, suicides, homelessness, broken marriages and lives. The casualty count is far beyond the 3157 number reported dead.

  • It is supporting the troops to bring back members of the Reserves and National Guard who are getting sent for 2 or 3 tours in Iraq when these people never signed up for this. It is supporting these troops and their families to bring them home.

  • What kind of “support” of the troops gets them exposed to toxic depleted uranium weapons in Iraq? These horrible weapons affect the Iraqi people even more, as they are the people who have to live among their effects.

  • How can the Republicans claim to “support the troops” when they do not support the returning veterans? The Bush administration is trying to cut funding for the VA at a time when there are a massive increase in the number of people with PTSD who need treatment and resources.

Senator Kerry, you announced that your Presidential aspirations are over. This gives you the freedom and the opportunity to take the courageous stand as a United States Senator, the right stand, the one that 27 year–old John Kerry would have taken in 1971. We need moral leadership and courage among our Senators and Representatives. Congressmen Markey and Meehan have already signed this pledge. We need courageous elected officials who stand up to scurrilous attacks by Republicans who say you are not “supporting the troops” if you defund the war. We need courageous Senators who realize that the war will not end unless Congress ends it by stopping the funding for it. We need courage from you, Mr. Kerry — just like fearless Senators that preceded you like Wayne Morse, William Fulbright, Mark Hatfield, and George McGovern. Senator Kerry, you and 40 others in the Senate can stop the war now. You are in a unique leadership position in the Democratic Party. We call on you to sign our pledge.


Sen. Kerry was able to take a few questions; I don't have time to recap at the moment.

After Sen. Kerry dropped off the call, we had a discussion with his staff for about another 45 minutes. I took some notes, but don't have time to write them up right now.

I think the good Senator and his staff know our feelings on defunding the occupation.


Bottom line: he is unwilling to sign our pledge to vote NO on funding the occupation.

Since Kerry's office is more or less a lock down kinda situation, I suspect we will not be allowed in his office today. We'll probably be standing outside in the cold today, but that's the breaks.

We're hoping for a good turnout today. Wear your woolies, bring your signs and energy.

Where:1 Bowdoin Square, Boston
Map: http://tinyurl.com/2a9w6d

When: 9AM ~ 5PM

Peace,
uhc
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 07:22 AM
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1. K&R
look forward to the notes.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 10:47 AM
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2. Signing such a pledge would tie his hands politically.
Edited on Wed Feb-28-07 10:48 AM by MH1
It's a bad idea for him to do it.

It may or may not be an effective strategy for your group to ask him and other politicians to sign such a pledge, but it would be bad for him to give in and sign it. But not signing it doesn't mean he won't ultimately vote against a war funding bill - it will depend how the bill is written.

I hope you realize that John Kerry wants this war to end at least as much as any of you do, even if he doesn't agree with you on the way to make that happen.

Edit to add: has every single one of your group signed Kerry's "set a deadline" petition? If not, please follow the link in my sig and sign it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 11:17 AM
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3. Thanks for all you do, uhc, and stay warm! nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 11:25 AM
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4. Kerry is working on Set a Deadline to force a withdrawal - More senators will support that
that withdrawal timetable now than the 13 who voted for Kerry-Feingold last June.

Thankfully, Kerry and Feingold PERSIST to craft binding legislation and will continue to press the rest of the senate to act.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 02:02 PM
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5. Thanks for posting. There are other ways to bring the war to and end.
I don't blame Senator Kerry for not signing the statement. I also don't believe cutting off the funding is the proper way to go.
How about, set a deadline.com
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 02:16 PM
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6. Thanks for the post. I agree with your higher goal, but not
how you want to go about it. I disagree with defunding the war at this time. Do you REALLY think that will end the war? George Bush will continue this war if he has to send troops buck naked into Baghdad. This thing needs to be taken one step at a time. Nevertheless, thanks for your service and taking part in our great democracy by registering your dissent with the good Senator.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 02:21 PM
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7. Kerry needs manuevering room.
So many Senators seem afraid of the concrete, or what we'd find if we actually tried diplomacy. Having to admit terrible conditions exist, with a lack of courage in facing the solutions. I know, while soldiers die and lives permanantly changed and maimed. coaxing a policy and deadline among the reluctant is his reality.

As important for Kerry to be able to move freely, I believe the Vets need to push and express freely. Remind everyone of harsh truths we can't ignore, and hopefully encourage others to speak up more.

We all have our roles to play in this. http://www.setadeadline.com
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 07:28 PM
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10. I'm glad they're doing this and hope they challenge senators unwilling to commit to withdrawal
plans. The list of those who voted against Kerry-Feingold last June would be the right place to start.

Maybe they want to practice first with senators more friendly to their point like Kerry than senators who will resist firm withdrawal or who are running for president and don't want to get pinned down for an answer.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 04:41 PM
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8. kick
:kick:
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 05:08 PM
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9. A little perspective guys. You inspired me to write a post down
here in Virginia, where it's a very unfriendly place to activists like yourselves.

http://www.vbdems.org/?p=904#respond

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