Dot connecting and the AAR situation

she has pissed some major folks.

So here is what somebody pointed to me tonight

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/03/air-americas-randy-rhodes-suspended-we-did-it/#comments

Now Larry Johnson, in case nobody remembers, is former CIA. And going after media hosts (especially real lefty ones, or ones that inconvenience leadership) is a classic in Latin America

Hell, it is part of the manual to destabilize nations that CIA has used many a times.

All I am saying is that finding this connection adds a whole new layer to this story... and one that is creepy at best, and with huge implications

After all, she's not the only target.

Have at it folks... but expect more attacks on the media from now on.... and by that I mean the independent ones who have pissed on one too many wheaties. Yep, Naomi Wolf comes fully to mind right now...

constitution than a drama queen who made herself the story of the day. Seriously, I listened to Thom Hartmann and Rachel Maddow and got good information. Randi didn't have to make this democrats eating their own.

Get a grip!

The last few weeks I thought she had really gone off the deep end. I seriously doubt you'd be writing her a pass if she'd been calling Obama names.

after the bosnia debacle, seriously... connect some dots

By the way if she had called obama (insert name here) off the air, in a routine... I'd have the same problems since I don't like the langauge, but I have this penchant for seeing patterns I don't like

For the record... in case you wonder, I am not a supporter of EITHER of the candidates ok.

(though I will unhappily vote for the nominee in November). And Randi was going off the deep end before the Bosnia crap I've thought the show has been going down hill since she got back from the last cruise. It's possible to be an Obama supporter without alienating your audience (or at least the part of the audience that's not supporting either one of them). I used to enjoy her show and now I'll tune in for a while after Hartmann ends - which is a good thing or I would have missed Sam filling in for her - but if Randi's around I can only stand about a half hour of it.

and the toxicity of this campaign

It's the extremist of Hillary's followers. Who the heck has petition in the other forum.

by the way... this is one more in the continuity of Constitution shredding

And I guess you will not have any problem if I fire you (assuming you were my employee) for disagreeing with me at the local watering hole, right?

This is the kind of precedent that scares ME shitless

on this evil administration. While I may not agree with her style, one can never fault her for NOT discussing the subjects you mentioned....and hundreds more.

was in the "anti-bush" crowd.

given that the other host he has on his sights has also spoken against his preferred candidate and the replacement host is pro

By the way... I don't care which one of the candidates wins the nom...

But this has even more layers than just a radio host, at a semi private comedy routine using off color language (that I personally have a problem with)

The CIA didn't go after hosts, they went after journalists...and they still do...a reason we get such precious little information about what's going on in Iraq. There's always those who point to the supposed psy-ops that planted agents in newsrooms, but other that has never been confirmed. However, we DO know this regime has and probably still pays for talking heads and radio hosts to spew their crap...and who do I see on TV last week commenting on Barak Obama? Armstrong Williams. Sheesh.

Randi asked for this suspension...she's been flying without a parachute for a while. This wasn't the CIA who put those words in her mouth or say a lot of her on-air conspiracies. If there was a conspiracy, I suspect it was the Green brothers being Clinton supporters and being offended when Randi went way over the line.

AAR is small fish...it doesn't reach most of the country and in many markets its on small, low-rated stations. I can't see what purpose the CIA would get in going after AAR hosts who are speaking to the choir for the most part. I'd be more suspect that Leslie Blitzer is on their payroll than anyone inside AAR.

Cheers...

in the past, starting with Guatemala in 1956

Now I am not saying CIA did it... not enough dots.

Just pointing out that Larry IS a former CIA Agent...

Just pointing out that this is OUT of their destabilization manual

And as they say Cui Bono?

by the way you do know how long it took for Contrielpro to be exposed right?

Back in the 60's they ran a clandestine operation from Swan Island...right off the coast of Nicaragua that was aimed at misinformation about Castro...later it would be cranked up again to go after Ortega. And, of course, there's the infamous original Air America...the airline that also operated a big station inside Thailand. The CIA was (and probably still is) involved with Radio Marti...the boondoogle that tried to send TV signals into Cuba by attaching a TV antenna to a ballooon. And one can't forget their involvement in Radio Free Europe...that is still operating.

IMHO, I think the CIA is more at war with this regime than we know...ya can't imagine "the company" has enjoyed the treatment they've gotten from crashcart and addington. If they were to go after anyone, you'd think they'd want to further embarass this regime and its enablers.

Cheers...

and from rumors we have heard there is a virtual civil war inside the company

But they also toppled radio personalities using character assassination. This is exactly what happened here. That is why this raises all kinds of questions

And again who benefits and we would have to track that...

Now it is also highly suspected that former agents were involved in the Florida debacle in 2000, using techniques learned in LA. Remember, Poppy WAS head of CIA at one point. (And no, I don't thing Junior wants her off the air... for many reasons... look at GD-P)

When somebody here pointed to this factoid in a thread, the whole thing took on a whole new layer... the onion just gained layers if you get my drift

Should be doing better things with his time.

i guess this is what it is all about..if you disagree with "our candidate" we will crush you...



or as one poster on larry`s site said.......

"Black power groups and surrrogates are hard at work in Media and churches and in congress with threatening death threats, punishment at the polls, and worse."

"Democrats are buckling under this wave of black fascism."


larry johnson is the hero of the left!!





i remember reading about another purge a long time ago and a land far away.

one in the 1950s and the other in the 1070s, The latter didn't go too well either...

And there have been more than just one purge in far away lands

:-)

What's so "left" about the "left" these days?

NOT enough yet for it... but we are getting close

I'd say it is the DLC and the long knives in the party are getting even sharper.

If this is the case, we will see the blowout very soon. Oh and the convention will be UGLY

the progressive /grass roots left is on the list

and four more wars!

Rhandi Rhodes is telling it like it is. No wonder she is being attacked by Hillary Clinton supporters who are basically the ones supporting the status quo... the Establishment, the war machine and all of the rest. Only Rhandi Rhodes has the "balls" to call out Dick Cheney and Bush... whereas all of these years Hillary Clinton has been nothing but a facilitator for corporate fascist takeover of the USA.

And no wonder Larry Johnson is supporting her... he is ex-CIA... what type of dirt was he involved with that he is worried about keeping covered up? Of course he favors the establishment types like Hillary.

has been on Randi's show many times, and they talk like they are friends. Saying that anyone was out to get her is ridiculous. Randi opened her mouth and put her foot in it, and now her bosses have suspended her. When a personality is paid to represent an entertainment venue, like radio or TV, they know that they have to tow the line or pay the price. She probably didn't realize that anyone was taping her, and let it rip.

I turned her off after she came back from her vacation gushing about Obama for 3 days. I haven't tuned her back in and probably won't again. Her, "I don't take sides in the primary" was just bullshit, and I had enough.

zalinda

and yes, Larry has been on the show... but a funny thing happened on the way to the forum, he has NOT been on the show since the primary heated up

Not but this really makes him come off like a freeper.

for donations.

And don't insult Larry... he is a cold professional doing what he was trained to do. This is a dirty trick... and a sophisticated one too

Freepers cannot do this

Calling Larry a freeper, is underestimating a dangerous man.

He's the guy who got the Randi video posted on YouTube.

He's the guy that pushed for Randi's suspension.

Now he's the guy who's pushing for her to be fired and replaced by Taylor Marsh.

I agree with the suspension, but Johnson's got an axe to grind here for some reason.

Go to the link Nadin provided, read the post, and then tell me that that Johnson isn't out to get her.

- as

Then maybe you can think clearly.

Any woman who calls another woman a whore should not be representing a liberal/progressive radio company. If she had said political whore, I would not have said a word. ALL politicians are political whores, that is the nature of the beast.

zalinda

You're trying to what repubs do.

:silly:

Now go to Larry's site, and check out who else is in the cross hairs, then ask yourself this question? WHY

THey are Clinton Supporters.

Now I will speak to you plainly

I don't give a tinkers damn which one is elected. From a policy perspective there is little light in between them. But I do give a damn about silencing people for their views

Got it now?

And if the Clinton campaign is using these kinds of dirty tricks (which is increasily the case)... then I have a serious problem

and I'm not a Clinton supporter. I don't like either of them. But, I also don't like sexist crap thrown around like it is okay. I've seen Richard Pryor and he IS funny, he includes himself within the jokes, he is part of what he is talking about.

Randi put herself above the joke, by putting down 2 very accomplished women and calling them whores. She didn't call them political whores, but whores...........like they slept their way to their positions and had little else to contribute. It was meant to demean them, not make a point.

zalinda

It also emerged courtesy of Larry. We would not be having this discussion if that didn't happen

Now if she had said this ON THE AIR... I believe whore is one of the seven magic words...

Sometimes I can't help but wonder if this is why Gore didn't run...

Now I laughed those rumors as pure tinfoil... not any more

:tinfoilhat:

They-the shadow gov, the rethugs, the neo cons, the fundies, the freepers-have already proven that they will do anything to get what they want.

They've worked hard to silence and marginalize others too...Dixie Chicks, Rosie O'Donnell, Mike Malloy, Michael Moore.....

is written FINALLY.. all those dots I suspect will be connected.

Sadly I think it will take more than just some bloggers... and why they do all they do to keep people divided.

:kick:

Feel free to spread the info!!

Is there one up at iPetitions? No crazy-ass popups there.

I didn't create it - just relaying the info.

Don't know if there is on on iPetitions. Did you try looking there?

Save the aggravation - get a good Pop-Up blocker!!

to screw them over publicly. And since you're reading DU Larry, yes, I'm calling you out.

and no Larry, not all of us are ignorant of the tactic. I know imagine that!

One way to stop character assassins is to expose them

The problem is that many people are too naive to believe this works or would be used in the US... SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE

Time Warner/AOL, Disney/ABC, Bertelsmann, Viacom/CBS, News Corporation/Fox, General Electric/NBC, Sony, Universal/Seagram, Tele-Communications, Inc., TCI and AT&T are all complicit.

:tinfoilhat:

USAmeriKKKa has not had a free press for a LONG time.

:rofl: Why not just get Melanie Morgan?

Seems those who are not pro clinton should be removed from the air

I don't know who Taylor is... to be honest, but this whole thing is a riot, ain't it?

AAR line up...:sarcasm:

That is exactly what this type of radio needs, lock in step POVs.

I usually listen to her at the time on the stream... will listen to NPR instead...

OTOH AAR will get a lot of people to listen to the show now that will not turn them on because she is critical of Clinton

There are many radio and other media personalities who took offense to Randi's remarks. Is your "connection" meant to imply that his mission is to destabilize the United States? Give me a break. He posted a video. Do you really think that requires CIA training? Maybe that Leave-Britney-Alone guy was CIA too.

:eyes:

And you think character assassination is not a tool?

Ok

Just because one of the people doing it is former CIA doesn't mean it's some super secret plot hatched in Sub-Level 106 of Langley Headquarters where they store the alien bodies! And it's not like it's CIA style black propaganda or misinformation! They posted a video - of Randi HERSELF! C'mon! Does that mean she's in on it too?

and the TAPE came from Larry Johnson's blog where it was first posted

No, nothing to see here

You are right.

Let me now go and write a short story about how silencing works...

Oh, man. Maybe it is a CIA plot! Those bouncers can be hard to get by. You sold me. It's definitely CIA training that made this possible. Oh, crap! Maybe it was these guys!

by the way, that was ALSO the methodology used by both CIA and FBI during Contrielpro

I wish I could live in your naive worldview... I really do

If you are modifying your argument, then I'll consider that a concession.

"I wish I could live in your naive worldview... I really do." :rofl: I love lines like that!

wow... okie dokie

I am sure that will come as news to Larry Johnson

By the way I have not modified it one iota

HE WORKED FOR CIA

The TACTICS are out of the play book

And I never said CIA was directly connected to this takedown... just that the TACTICS were used

ANd yes I don't ever want to live in your world.. that naiveté is dangerous

For the record CIA is far better at hiding tracks... and in this case I think Larry wanted people to know he was behind this

Not only can you not remember that I clearly wrote how Johnson is former CIA, you can't even remember what you wrote yourself:



Go ahead and have the last word if it will make you feel better. I try not to kick people while they're down. I'm an Obama supporter 100% and hate seeing such ridiculous arguments that some people might feel is representative of us.

he used the same tactics that he learned with his former employer

It goes BEYONG releasing a tape by the way

Johnson supports Clinton. Randi has been going off on Clinton.

Johnson releases the video to YouTube and points his readers to it, calling for a suspension. They pick up on it, pressure AAR, Randi is suspended.

Now they want her fired and replaced by the pro-Hillary Taylor Marsh.

You don't have to allege some super-secret plot to be able to recognize that this was a takedown, do you?

(Edited for spelling.)

- as

Are they just slapping her wrists, or are they firing her?
I like it best when she talks about issues, not when she is interrupting people.
She is passionate about things, but sometimes repeats herself. I ipod her, and if she gets out of hand, I just listen to another day.
I hope she comes back. There aren't enough liberal talk show hosts.
I do like her. We all have our faults.

I know from listening to people yesterday that even the industry was getting involved in the dust off and that we were at the lawyer stage of it

But I think she and her lawyers are going to make AAR squirm for a while before she does it.

Mark Green really should have known better than to mess with Randi. AAR will be facing a breach of contract suit, and it will end up costing them big.

- as

He used to be on her show all the time.

Safe to bet that they're not friends at this point.

- as

Threatening peoples' livelihoods over the content of their speech is unacceptable to me. She wasn't over the airwaves and didn't break the law.

I used to respect Larry Johnson. Not anymore.

not crossed since oh the 1790s...

And yes, this is getting toxic... more proof of the toxicity

I saw one person mentioned and I'm not familiar with him, so I thought I'd ask before I go off to research him.

I've heard Stephanie Miller and Schultz both talking about how some of Sen. Clinton's supporters are trying get their shows shut down by contacting Jones Network and their advertisers. Stephanie mentioned this again this morning.

I just don't like this tactic.

not seen since John Adams put reporters who were critical of him in jail

and the TACTIC is un american

Sam Seder:

I’ll be filling in for Randi again tomorrow and maybe a couple of days next week. I spoke to Randi today before subbing for her. I’m not going to characterize her feelings- it’s not my place to do that.It’s true that I feel Randi has taught me nearly all that I know about radio and consider her a friend but that hasn’t affected my perspective on this.

Personally, I think this is ridiculous. That said, I do believe that the network has the right to take issue with it.

It’s a stand up routine- and it offended none of the people who paid to see it.... No one else had to watch that tape - it wasn’t presented on the airwaves, etc etc....Would I have used the words she did, no, but I can’t promise that they would be any less "offensive".

Anyway, I have no idea how long the suspension will be or when we will know or why it’s not set. I’m willing to sub for Randi but I don’t like the circumstances. I certainly don’t want someone sitting in her seat who’s going to be a management toady.


Stephanie Miller Sticks up for Randi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB1JZ__TV_Q


Janeane Garofalo sticks up for Randi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDYsWZnWtXs


Exercise YOUR right to freedom of speech - Let your voice be heard!!!

Petition to reinstate Randi: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/reinstaterandi

EMAIL Air America: feedback@airamerica.com

If so, this isn't exactly rocket science.

:shrug:

and this was released at his blog

Need more help?

And its not much of a stretch that a friend of Larry's would go see Randi Rhodes.

Also the person who took the video called Stephanie Miller today and made no mention of being a friend of Larry Johnsons and he gave the video to the station. He said everyone was laughing and nobody thought it was a big deal.

if that was never released I can bet we would not be having this conversation

Which by the way just had added to my level of cynicism of this country, and just how much it is not what the marketing folks it is.