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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:08 AM
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Coleen Rowley: "...Just Denounce the Pacifists for Lack of Patriotism..."
Coleen Rowley: "...Just Denounce the Pacifists for Lack of Patriotism..."

How uncanny that exactly 40 years after Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated during the Vietnam War (and some think possibly because of his opposition to the Vietnam War), we would turn on our radios to hear a Twin Cities radio host re-applying the principles of Hermann Goering to plans for the upcoming anti-war march on the Republican National Convention (RNC). If you listen (here), you won't hear anything resembling "Minnesota Nice" on Chris Baker's show yesterday, the program that comes on before Rush Limbaugh's. His vitriolic, denouncing rants came in bursts between interviews with a Minneapolis Assistant Police Chief and Minneapolis Police Federation President John Delmonico as to how the right-wing radio host "can't stand these protesting varmints", "these spitting, frothing at the mouth lunatics", including his opinion that "protesting is an industry funded by billionaires and communist organizations (and) they are well coordinated and incredibly dangerous."

Baker's tirades were sparked by a Star Tribune newspaper article that reported apparent disagreements between Minneapolis police officials as to whether police officers patrolling at the time of the Republican National Convention in St. Paul should be armed with riot helmets, chemical spray and Taser guns for use on protesters.

The radio talk host demonstrated little effort to engage in legitimate debate on these issues and soon transcended from merely disparaging remarks to something far worse, coming very close to, if not crossing the line, of basically inciting violence against those he called the "stinky protesters."

After Delmonico agreed that "one of the (protesters') main missions is destruction," Baker added, "You must have order, you cannot have a civilized society without order and if that means cracking a few skulls, so be it...a good ole boy network is what you need and hand out some ax handles."

The absolutely worst tirade, however, comes towards the end of the program after the interviews with the police, when KTLK host Chris Baker lets go with this ostensible incitement to violence: "So we've been talking about police protection during the upcoming convention when all those stinky protesters are coming. There seems to be a big debate over whether or not police officers will be able to wear helmets, carry shields, use pepper spray and tasers on this crowd. You know, I'll tell you what works on a crowd like this--a machine gun, that always works very well."

"Mow 'em down, baby!" excitedly adds Baker's co-host "Jordan".

It doesn't take an expert on the First Amendment to recognize that suggesting the "good ole boy network" hand out ax handles and machine guns be used to mow a crowd down comes close to inciting violence...

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/coleen-rowley/just-denounce-the-pacifis_b_95259.html

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:22 AM
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1. Unfortunately plenty of average people are conditioned to hate protesters
So when the War Pigs infiltrate non-violent civil disobedience marches specifically to incite violence so the media can place the blame on those scruffy protesters, the public buys into the ruse. It follows: since they're out there in the streets causing such a commotion, OF COURSE they're going to start fights and assault those poor, heavily armed riot cops ... who are likely becoming sexually aroused over the prospect of bashing liberal skulls in.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:49 AM
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2. I suspect that we might see some new technology...
It appears that the military can be used on our native soil according to recent posts here, so I would be that they would be trying out some of their new microwave technology that brings incredible pain sensations to the targets.

Of course, if we are at war with Iran by then, Bush* may just use martial law and cancel the entire election season.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:59 AM
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3. K&R. Thanks for posting. Coleen is a hero of mine. (n/t)
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:37 AM
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4. Agents provocateurs in the crowd should be expected.
Don't forget the two cops at the SPP protest in Montebello Quebec who were caught by a union official dressed up as anarchists, carrying rocks and apparently hoping to instigate violence as an excuse for the riot squad to bash a few heads and let loose with the pepper spray. Details and video clips here: http://www.infowars.net/articles/august2007/220807Provocateurs_SPP.htm


A Short History of FBI COINTELPRO

by Mike Cassidy and Will Miller

In early 1971, the FBI's domestic counterintelligence program (code named "COINTELPRO") was brought to light when a "Citizens Committee to Investigate the FBI" removed secret files from an FBI office in Media, PA and released them to the press. Agents began to resign from the Bureau and blow the whistle on covert operations. That same year, publication of the Pentagon Papers, the Pentagon's top-secret history of the Vietnam War, exposed years of systematic official lies about the war.

SNIP

When congressional investigations, political trials and other traditional legal methods of repression failed to counter the growing movements of the 1950s, '60s and '70s, and even helped fuel them, the FBI and police moved outside the law. They used secret and systematic methods of fraud and force, far beyond mere surveillance, to sabotage constitutionally protected political activity. The purpose of the program was, in FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover's own words, to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit and otherwise neutralize" specific groups and individuals. Its targets in this period included the American Indian Movement, the Communist Party, the Socialist Worker's Party, Black Nationalist groups, and many members of the New Left (SDS, and a broad range of anti-war, anti-racist, feminist, lesbian and gay, environmentalist and other groups). Many other groups and individuals seeking racial, gender and class justice were targets who came under attack, including Martin Luther King, Cesar Chavez, the NAACP, the National Lawyer's Guild, SANE-Freeze, American Friends Service Committee, and many, many others.

The public exposure of COINTELPRO and other government abuses resulted in a flurry of apparent reform in the 1970s, but domestic covert action did not end. It has persisted, and seems a permanent feature of our government. Much of today's domestic covert action can also be kept concealed because of government secrecy that has been restored. The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), a source of major disclosures of COINTELPRO and other such activities, was drastically narrowed in the 1980s through administrative and judicial reinterpretation, as well as legislative amendment. While restoring such secrecy, the Reagan Administration also reinvigorated covert action, embracing its use at home and abroad. They endorsed it, sponsored it, and even legalized it to a great extent.

Much of what was done outside the law under COINTELPRO was later legalized by Executive Order 12333 (12/4/81). There is every reason to believe that even what was not legalized is still going on as well (emphasis added /JC). Lest we forget, Lt. Col. Oliver North funded and orchestrated from the White House basement break-ins and other "dirty tricks" to defeat congressional critics of U.S. policy in Central America and to neutralize grassroots protest. Special Prosecutor Walsh found evidence that North and Richard Secord (architect of the 1960s covert actions in Cambodia) used Iran-Contra funds to harass the Christic Institute, a church-funded public interest group specializing in exposing government misconduct.

North also helped other administration officials at the Federal Emergency Management Administration develop contingency plans for suspending the Constitution, establishing martial law, and holding political dissidents in concentration camps in the event of "national opposition against a U.S. military invasion abroad." There were reports of similar activities and preparations in response to the opposition to the Gulf War in 1991. Even today, there is pending litigation against the FBI involving alleged misconduct in connection with the near-fatal bombing of Judi Bari.

http://www.monitor.net/monitor/9905a/jbcointelpro.html

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 09:49 AM
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5. I remember Tommy The Traveller(Tommy Tongyai).
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/10584

Another type (of which Tommy the Traveler is an example) is the ultra-rightist who becomes a spy in order to destroy the target group. He is often driven to act out his paranoid fantasies with bombs and guns when his delusions about the group's sinister goals fail to conform to reality.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:04 AM
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6. When we hear newer info that ALL of the JFK, MLK, and Bobby Kennedy assassinations were conspiracies
... you have to wonder about stuff like this, and to be frank with you, it makes me damn scared for what is happening now.

We have a lot of the same elements in place now for a spate of those sorts of events happening again now. I REALLY hope that Obama's campaign is VERY demanding that there be non-stop secret service protection for him, and that they are WELL screened and not being pushed around by other government officials to "get them out of the way" at any point in his engagements.

If and when he becomes the nominee, he's a BIG target just like Bobby was then.

Also consider, Bush, Cheney and company probably want an excuse to cancel the coming elections. Such an assassination would be what they need to declare martial law, expand their unconstitutional claim on powers that they already have put in place now, and basically put in place a police state.

Anyone that is at an Obama event, be extra vigilant to make sure that such elements aren't allowed even close to having this happen. That doesn't mean that we go out and become Nazis to others we disagree with or whom we *think* are causing some problem when they aren't. But it does mean being extra aware, and if you see something that looks wrong, make sure that those officially there are aware of it.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 11:16 AM
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7. They're not an imaginative bunch
The idea of calling someone a traitor or a coward because they refuse to use violence to settle diffrences has been around for a long, long time, and has been practiced to near perfection here in the United States. It's always been a wonderment to me that a government that has used nuclear weapons against civilian populations is so fearful of citizens dissenting from the High Church of Redemptive Violence. But such is the nature of unquestioning faith.
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