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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:31 AM
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Name ONE good Republican from the last 100 years.
I know, it's hard. :)
Lets see how bi-partisan we can be, lol.

My choice is Barry Goldwater.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:34 AM
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1. Lincoln Chafee
Of course, he's not a repub anymore.

Teddy Roosevelt wasn't bad either....or Eisenhower. But they wouldn't be repubs today.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:42 AM
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12. Seconded.
.
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lukasahero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:03 PM
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100. And his father, John.
They grow their Repubs pretty liberal in RI.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:05 AM
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175. No. He could have made a difference and chose not to (more than once). (NT)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:34 AM
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2. Margaret Chase Smith
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 10:41 AM by eShirl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Chase_Smith

Senator Smith is prominent not only for her many firsts as a woman, but also for her early principled opposition to the tactics of Senator Joseph McCarthy. On June 1, 1950, she gave her Declaration of Conscience <1> speech on the floor of the Senate, earning McCarthy's permanent ire and the nickname "Moscow Maggie" from his staff. In 1954, when McCarthy attempted to challenge her seat by sponsoring a primary challenger, the Maine voters rejected the effort.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/margaretchasesmithconscience.html


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:39 PM
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118. Olympia Snowe has been all right in some respects, as well. She's no MCS, though.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:34 AM
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3. Dwight D Eisenhower. . .
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:43 AM
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14. I second that one.
Ironically, he warned us against the military/industrial complex and the costs of constant war.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:46 AM
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22. Granted, he wasn't perfect . . .
. . . but at least he was a conservative you could resepect, unlike this Cabal of Wicked calling themselves "Republican" nowadays.
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JoDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:52 AM
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29. He's my pick
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Doobie Newbie Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:38 AM
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77. Yes
my vote
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:39 AM
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80. I third it! nt
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:08 PM
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103. Yup. I believe he was a good man. nm
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:11 PM
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110. .
:thumbsup:
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:16 PM
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112. Ayup.
He'd surely be Swiftboated these days if he were still around.....
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:48 PM
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120. Ditto that.
Eisenhower.

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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:57 PM
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125. My understanding is that Eisenhower was a military man, not a politician,
and since it was the GOP pressuring him to run for president, he ran on their ticket, but he didn't have any particularly deep roots or close ties to the GOP. That may not be completely accurate, but it's the way I've always understood that it went. Either way, I'm pretty damn sure he (like Lincoln, or anybody with half an iota of integrity or common sense) wouldn't be a Republican today.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:21 AM
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184. The Democrats wanted him to run on their ticket in 1952.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:01 PM
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149. Eisenhower overthrew Iran's democratically elected government which later caused the revolution
And he did it because of oil. He gets no love from me.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 03:08 AM
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171. That has always been my one reservation. It doesn't fit with the rest of what I know
about him so I am conflicted.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:23 AM
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185. Yes, and don't forget he overthrew Arbenz in Guatemala.
But all presidents did that kind of things, whether they were Republican or Democrat.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:00 PM
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165. Sure.
My pick too.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:18 AM
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183. ...Who indirectly created modern day fundamentalist Iran by imposing the Shah on the Iranians...
...when he overthrew the democratically elected government of Mossadeq. Real smart move.
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brandon47 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:36 AM
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4. ok
John McCain
George Bush I
Chuck Hagel
Colin Powell
Christine Todd Whitman
Tom Ridge
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:40 AM
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8. omg
:scared:

Are you serious? Or being facetious? (Please, oh please, let them be joking!)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:05 AM
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47. Naw. Just a youngster who doesn't remember what a good
republican is. No basis for comparison.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:44 AM
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85. Barry Goldwater was a racist bastard. Do you mean
"good at being a Republican"?
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:45 AM
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90. Goldwater was not a racist.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:51 AM
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94. How do you think "states rights" became code for segregation?
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 11:52 AM by sfexpat2000
(Sorry -- misplaced the post. I meant to reply to the OP!)
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:52 AM
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95. Perhaps among some, not among Goldwater or the vast majority of Libertarians.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:03 PM
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101. Goldwater voted against the Civil Rights Act.
He may have had a change of heart late in his career but he was in there with the best of them for most of his publc life.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:09 PM
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105. His vote against the Civil Rights act was not because he disagreed with equal rights.
He was against the provision stating that private businesses could not discriminate against peoples' race or gender. He believes that regardless of the shoddy morals that the business owner has to create that policy, he doesn't think the government should intervene in the practices of a private business. He considered that to be unconstitutional.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:54 PM
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123. Isn't that what...
the Republican party is all about, less government, less controls and regulations, everything up to the private sector? I'm sorry, but allowing private business to discriminate against peoples' race or gender IS racism.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:58 PM
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126. I disagree.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:23 PM
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131. That's a circular argument. n/t
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:50 PM
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121. So did Robert Byrd
You ready to kick him out of the party?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:31 PM
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141. Last time I looked, I wasn't in charge of your party membership. n/t
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:56 PM
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148. Haven't his votes since...
Haven't his votes since then atoned for his earlier proclivities...? :shrug:
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:30 AM
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189. You mean the senator of Virginia, who was among the leaders of the 'Whites Citizens Council'?
The 'alternative' KKK? Who lead the resistance against the desegregation of public schools?
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:24 AM
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186. Hell yes he was. He was a strong segregationist and opposed civil rights.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:58 AM
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98. I think you replied to the wrong post. Neither I nor the post I replied to
mentioned Goldwater - who, btw, while being a paleocon did not have a reputation in his day for being a racist, at least in contrast to contempories like Thurmond and Helms.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:19 AM
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63. Brandon is part of Operation Chaos don't ya know!
His posts today are quite the roll call of Limbaughian nonsense.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:33 AM
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69. Well, you know
they only have 7 months to convince the country we really need McCain to keep the "war on terra" going, and not let some dem putz take us into hell and damnation! ;)
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:41 AM
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10. sweet jesus are YOU in the wrong place. . . .n/t
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brandon47 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:45 AM
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19. Why?
Because I don't hate people whom I disagree with? Because I don't hate people who served the public with honour?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:47 AM
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25. GHWB served himself and his cronies.
The needs of the public were less of a factor in his mind than the gum he accidentally stepped on in 1981.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:53 AM
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32. Every single one of your examples
is a sell-out. And that goes quadruple for McCain in particular. He sold his soul to the devil to become a nominee. It shows how much of a bad guy he has become in the past 8 years, and will continue to be if he is elected.

I suggest you study each and every one of your choices, by their votes in congress (if applicable), their policies in office (if applicable), and the friends that they keep (if applicable). Research is the only defense against the ignorance of blindly accepting failed politicians and their mistakes.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:05 AM
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Justice is not hate. n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #19
51. Powell covered up Mi Lai.
Also, lied before the entire world to start the Iraq war. Took credit for the Gulf 1 victory which belonged to Scheiskopf, or whatever his name is.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:13 AM
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55. With honor?????
You really aught to do a little research..
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:10 PM
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You either know nothing about those men, or you know nothing about "honor".
Either way, your answer to the OP's question was incorrect.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:09 AM
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52. But not for long would be my guess.
Soon to be granitized.
:evilgrin:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:24 PM
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114. "He's dead, Jim."
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:09 PM
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142. Shi-it!
I take a break, come back, and the freep is dead already? Gosh darnit, I hate that when it happens! I never get to see the good stuff happen! :rofl:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 04:08 AM
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172. Nah, you missed NOTHING.
There was no "good stuff" with this one- he was too stupid
to hear the train coming, and never made any flaming "last stand".

He made his posts on this thread, and then he was no more.

Kinda sad actually- I bet he had some big Freeper "swan song" speech
prepared for his banning; he seemed like that type. I would have enjoyed it.



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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:41 PM
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162. I kinda figured.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:42 AM
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11. I still respect Powell (despite that horrific blunder that ended his career).
But the rest are a little...iffy.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:38 AM
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78. It was not a "blunder" when he went before the UN, it was a purposeful lie to the world.
He did not find himself there in a dream, he was not forced to go, he did not oblige himself to discuss only what he knew factually to be true (obvious because there were no facts). How can that be thought of as a blunder? It sounded to me a lot more like 'mission accomplished' in that he did exactly what he intended to do.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #78
87. My use of the word "blunder" was hyperbolic in it's lack of venom.
Trust me, I know it was far, far more than just a blunder.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:44 AM
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16. McClown is W Bewsh part III.
George Bush is a former CIA spook who had his name stamped on more scandals and illegal activity than you could shake a stick at.
Colin Powell gladhanded the Cabal's lies and led us to this neverending war.
Tom Ridge . . . Mr "Terr Alert" . .

Sorry, but you're on notice.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:47 AM
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24. *Not* McCain!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:36 AM
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74. Dear sweet Jesus! I might give you Hagel on a long bet, but the rest of them are pond scum.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:10 PM
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109. Yikes, the OP said good republicans...
I hope to God you misread the post... :shrug:
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #4
133. You forgot Lieberman...
but he is only good for their side...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:08 PM
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155. He already got TS'd
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:21 PM
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159. Yikes. Ummm... Welcome to DU?
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:36 AM
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5. Silvio Conte
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_O._Conte

No, not perfect, but a good guy.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:38 AM
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7. An unlikely person who would agree with you...
is Betty Boothroyd, former Labour MP and the first female British Speaker. She worked for Conte for a while when she was young, and refers very favourably to him in her autobiography.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:40 AM
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9. Good choice.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:38 AM
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6. Everitt Dirksen
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 10:39 AM by HereSince1628
Good on civil rights even if he was a gung-ho supporter of the Vietnam War
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:43 AM
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13. NOT a fair question. There was one that died 101 years ago. LOL
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:43 AM
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15. Well I gotta know...
;)
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:56 AM
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Rinaldo Forrester Thompson.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:44 AM
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17. Eisenhower
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:39 AM
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79. Yup, the military industrial complex warning was VERY prescient! And he shut down McCarthy!
Both are good legacies to have had.

Though he probably got us started in Vietnam with throwing advisors over there when the French left.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:34 AM
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192. He led the military budget to *explode* during his two terms!
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:44 AM
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18. Gerald Ford.
I voted for him in my very first presidential election. I had just turned 18 a few months before. :)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:11 AM
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53. If he had not pardoned Nixon, the entire Bush era would have
never happened. All the Bush criminals came into office during his watch - Rummy, Cheney - he made Bush 1 head of the CIA.

Bzzzzt.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:13 AM
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57. I second your Bzzzzt
The man who pardoned Nixon bears responsibility for what is going on now.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:16 AM
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62. So Ford was supposed to be able to predict the future?
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 11:19 AM by Brigid
The only reason he pardoned Nixon was to help the country heal from Watergate -- and he paid a heavy price for it. Today, some consider it a mistake, and some don't. So bzzzzt yourself.

Even Nixon himself wasn't all bad. In fact, he's a pinko compared to even Clinton -- which just goes to show how far to the right this country has shifted since his day.

God, I can't believe I'm defending Republicans. x(
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:34 AM
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72. He didn't heal the country. He healed his party.
I was outraged at that "pardon" - how do you "pardon" someone who has not been charged with anything? - and saw the political ramifications immediately: it would shut down ALL further investigations into the rampant abuse of power in his administration. And it did.

"...just goes to show how far to the right this country has shifted since his day."

It was the pardoning of Nixon that made that possible.

He had the persona of a non-descript Eisenhower type, but he WAS the most powerful republican in the senate, and he was ruthless about his use of that power. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing.

Sorry to bust your bubble, but Ford was NOT on the side of the angels.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:40 AM
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83. Didn't say Ford was an angel.
But he was the last of his kind.

Maybe I'm just being dense here, but what does pardoning Nixon have to do with the American people being stupid enough to elect people like Reagan and Bush 1? The election of 2000 was stolen, true, but that was partly because people were at the time still apathetic about voting. I find it kind of hard to blame a president who served nearly 30 years ago for the mess we're in now. We have the neocons, not Ford, to thank for that.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:13 PM
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111. Ford brought the neocons into the government.
Cheney was his chief of staff. Rummy was his sec def. His pardoning of Nixon made sure that the abuses that were burgeoning in the republican party were not dealt with - and there is no way he didn't know they were there. As I mentioned, he was the most powerful republican in the senate, and nothing happened without him knowing about it. Bush 1 he appointed to head the CIA, which launched him into the WH with Reagan.

These things did not just 'happen'. The election of 2000 is a direct result of the republicans escaping judgement after the Reagan/Bush years, which were a direct result of Nixon escaping judgment, because of Ford's pardon. Bush 1 is the shadow figure in the whole thing, going back to Dallas, and Ford's whitewash of the Kennedy assassination which buried the Bush/CIA links to it with the Warren Commission.

Our problems did not start with the election of 2000, and they won't end when Obama is elected. There is a generational war for the soul of our country in progress, and progress is losing.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:03 PM
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127. YES. He predicted that if he pardoned Nixon, NIXON WOULD GET OFF.
He didn't just predict the future, he determined the future!!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:19 PM
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130. Gerald Ford was a loyal errand boy for 2 of the biggest cover ups in US history...
the JFK murder conspiracy
AND
Watergate

good riddance to him
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:17 PM
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156. Yea Nixon was pink compared to Clinton...
When you ignore the illegal wiretaps, the FBI harassment of civil rights and anti-war groups, the escalation of Vietnam, the illegal war in Cambodia, and the CIA installing Pinochet in Chile.

Democrats had a huge majority in congress under Nixon and Clinton had to deal with the most right wing congress since the 1920's. Nixon signed what congress sent him and Clinton did to a certain extent as well. But in terms of abusing executing authority, Clinton doesn't even come close to Nixon. Nixon may even be worse than Bush in that department.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:36 AM
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193. Nixon a pinko? Well, a pinko that expanded the war in Vietnam to Cambodja...
...so even more countries could share in the atrocities of the US.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:51 PM
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163. If he didn't pardon Nixon he would have won in 1976
Of course that could have meant Dole winning the rethug nod the next time instead of Reagan...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:47 AM
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177. I contend otherwise, and obviously, we will never know.
But I think if he had NOT pardoned Nixon, that the full exent of the criminality of the Nixon administration would have been brought out in court, and would have stopped the descent of the republicans entirely. The Bush wing would have never come to power, Carter would have had a 2nd term, and Reagan would have never won in 80. The Bushites who cut a deal with Iran to undercut Carter would have been in no position to do so.

Which means the Republicans today would be the same republicans they were before Bush - loyal conservatives, with a strong liberal wing - instead of a criminal enterprise.

Dole may well have won, after Carter's 2nd term, but it is pretty clear that Dole would have been head-and-shoulders better than Reagan.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:10 AM
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180. Ford was a nice man
But still his name was Mudd in our Democratic house for pardoning Nixon, end of story. LBJ said of Gerry when they were both on the Hill "He's so dumb if you say good morning to him he's at a loss for an answer." Remember 'WIN' buttons?
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:45 AM
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20. There are some
but the important thing to remember is that most wise repubs would seek their own counsel and not one with a psychopathic god. That goes well beyond hubris and arrogance, and shows a maturity beyond many.

As far as presidents are concerned, the best ones are those who aren't afraid to be wrong and admit it, and that includes both repubs and dems. If someone cannot own up to being a failure at times, he/she has no right to ask any of us to support them unwaveringly.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:45 AM
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21. Right on.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:47 AM
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23. Everett Dirksen was kind of humorous.



He's the one who came up with the line ... "A billion here, a billion there, and sooner or later you're talking about REAL money." If he only stayed around long enough to see BushCo in action he wouldn't believe it.



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tool_of_the_people Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:49 AM
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26. Umm...........
.... I got nothing. :shrug:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:51 AM
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27. Teddy Roosevelt
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brandon47 Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:58 AM
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40. Seconded.
..
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SteelPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:01 AM
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42. Absolutely
He was the leader of the progressive movement for cryin out loud. He's an example of how twisted the Republican party has become...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt

His Square Deal tried to help the working man and regulate industry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_Deal

He was the first U.S. President to call for Universal National Health Care

He promoted the environmental causes and conservation.

He disolved forty monopolies.

He pushed forward the Pure Food and Drug Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_Food_and_Drug_Act and the Meat Inspection Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_Inspection_Act to protect consumers.

The guy wasn't perfect but I'd take him over a bunch of our current Democrats...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:12 AM
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54. Except for that pesky "imperialism" thingee. nt
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:36 AM
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75. He was my first thought entering this thread...
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 11:37 AM by calipendence
Though he later left the Republicans, he has many Democrats of today beat too! Damn fine man!
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:39 PM
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117. TR was the ultimate "RINO"
He was despised by the rank-and-file Repubs back in his day (and no love lost on his part to them, either). Hence, his 1912 run as an independent.
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:22 PM
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145. Yup. TR was pretty good, IMO.. (nfm)
*
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:06 PM
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153. BINGO!
Of course, back at the turn of the 20th century, the Republicans were the more progressive of the two parties, and the Democrats were the assholes.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:52 AM
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28. Lowell Weicker
now an independent, but was a Republican for most of his life.

Hates Bush, hates the Iraq War and had endorsed Obama. Not a big fan of Reagan, either.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:52 AM
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30. Christ, I live in CT and forgot about Weicker.
Good call. :)
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:53 AM
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31. self delete. Crabby post.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 10:55 AM by cliffordu
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:54 AM
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34. People are replying thoughtfully and agreeing with one another on some choices.
No need to turn it negative.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:56 AM
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36. DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND, NOT REPUBLICAN NICE GUYS
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:56 AM
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38. Take it up with a moderator, then.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:08 PM
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196. Grow up.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:03 AM
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44. It never hurts
to think we might have some commonality with some repubs. Let's face it--we need to understand them before we can hope to gain their support in an election. And it is wisest to know their minds in order to govern them as much as we will ourselves. There are many out there (repubs) who have been dismayed by this creepy administration as well, and are willing to see the damage inflicted upon the soul of the country.

Besides, if we can't accept their apology and welcome them with open arms, how are we ever going to repair that damage and become bi-partisan? Yes, many of them are petty, arrogant, and hateful, but doesn't mean we should convey that kind of attitude in return. We like to believe we are above all that, but unless we demonstrate that, we aren't a whole lot different from them, at least in perception.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:54 AM
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33. Chief Justice Earl Warren
There have been also been a few more recent liberal Justices who were appointed by Republicans.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:07 PM
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154. Agreed. Brennan was also appointed by Ike but I'm not sure what his party affiliation was
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:55 AM
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35. TR, Ike, Dirkson, Willkie, Leonard Wood, Goldwater, Warner, Hagel
Just off the top of my head
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:56 AM
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37. I will c choose 3
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 11:00 AM by nels25
1. Theodore Roosevelt
2. Dwight Eisenhower
3. Wendall Wilke

**Note it has always amazed me that when I read the history of the 52 and especially the 56 elections, that IKE has been portrayed as a buffoon by partisan Democrats.

I suppose coming up with the Operation Overlord plan and overall being in charge of the allied armies in the west that beat the nazi's is nothing at all to respect, I guess anyone could have pulled it off.

Come on people, some republicans did have brains and were of quality character (at least as any other pol) and could at least a small merit of respect even if we disagree with their over all political approach.

And I do not think it makes me any less of a progressive to state the above.

Also I have a question for all of you??

I think I read somewhere that Robert Laffolette (sp) started out as a TR republican, is this true?
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:07 AM
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49. Yes, La Follette served in the Senate both as a Progressive and as a Republican...
and so did his son Bob LaFollette Jr. Until he was 'purged' in the Republican primary in 1946 - in favour of Joe McCarthy(!!!!!!) ... And the Republicans accuse Dems of 'purging' their candidates in favour of more extreme people; err, not in comparison with that, I don't think!
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:23 AM
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65. OMG!! to quote my daughter
EWW!!

To think we replaced a respectable man like Bob La Follette Jr for that red baiting POS.

BROTHER!! I did not know that. DISGUSTING!!:puke:
:wtf:
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:57 AM
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39. Patricia N
She was my main squeeze from 1981-82! :loveya:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:58 AM
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41. None of the above
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:02 AM
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43. Fiorello LaGuardia
OK, that's going back a ways, but I'm looking for names I don;t see above.

In the same vain, Tom Dewey.

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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:04 AM
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45. Good man, shitty airport.
Plus, I had to :).
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:06 AM
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48. Oh, darn. Beaten to it.
And by only a few minutes, too. :)
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:05 AM
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46. Fiorello LaGuardia. n/t
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:07 AM
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50. FDR
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:13 AM
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56. FDR
was a dem. Teddy was a repub, but nowheres near the travesty that now passes for many a repub.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:14 AM
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58. Alrighty smartypants, what about JFK then?
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:39 AM
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81. Both JFKs
were/are dems. :P

(Kennedy and Kerry, in case anyone forgot!)
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:45 AM
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88. Anyone can say anything on the internet
Do you have any proof?
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:10 PM
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107. uh, huh!!!
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:25 AM
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67. HUH???
I don't think I get this one??

I could understand his cousing Teddy, but I always thought FDR was a Democrat during his whole political life.

I am open to enlightenment??
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Pendrench Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:14 AM
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59. Charles Mathias (Senator from Maryland) n/t
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:15 AM
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60. Here are TWO rethuglican boobs.




Well ... if they weren't good rethuglicans, maybe they were funny rethuglicans.



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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:32 AM
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190. Why was I expecting to see Katherine Harris topless?
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:15 AM
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61. too many to list; used to be many decent moderate repubs once upon a time
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 11:27 AM by abq e streeter
Charles Percy, Rep. Tom Railsback ( Ill.), Lowell Weicker, Teddy Roosevelt just to name a few. look at all the repubs who supported the civil rights bills in the 60's. That, as LBJ noted, was the beginning of the modern repub party, when he signed the bill and said "we've turned the south over to the republicans for at least a generation" or words to that effect. The vile, ignorant, race baiting ( etc. etc. etc.) republicans we've come to know and loathe are in many cases, people ( like Trent Lott for example) that probably would have been Democrats through the first half of the 20th century, before we fully committed to being the ( in their words of course) the N----- loving party, and the republicans sold whatever soul they may have had, to gain power through the southern strategy of welcoming with open arms, millions of predominantly southern ( but midwestern etc. too) white racists (and those not necessarily racist at heart, but easily manipulated through ignorance and fear). If the modern repub party had the slightest bit of a conscience, it would be profoundly ashamed of itself and how it got to where it is today, but I guess we all know the answer to that "if".
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:22 AM
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64. John Dean
He has been sounding the alarm for years about the takeover of the GOP by authoritarian religious fanatics. He comes across as fairly pragmatic from what I've seen of him.

I wasn't politically active until a few years ago, so I don't know much about the history of the GOP. Eisenhower seemed decent for his acceptance of the new deal, the interstate system and his concerns over the military industrial complex.

It is hard to think of politicians who place integrity and the public over politics. Even on the dem side there aren't too many who do that except for people like Kucinich or McKinney.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:30 PM
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115. He was a pretty stand up guy during Watergate IIRC
All that shocking testimony when he could have suffered amnesia.

-Hoot
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:25 AM
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66. Margaret Chase Smith, Edward Brooke (the last one I voted for), and
Teddy Roosevelt, with the quibble that his antitrust laws were to make a more level playing field among plutocrats and national parks system was to preserve game for rich sportsmen. The law of unintended consequences allowed both to benefit ordinary people eventually.

The first two were typical liberal GOPs from the northeast.

Goldwater would never make the cut. He was a reactionary radical.

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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:26 AM
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68. "Goldwater would never make the cut. He was a reactionary radical."
He did have his moments, lol.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:33 AM
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70. Ronald Reagan..
Chatlton Heston
Gerald Ford
Richard Nixon
Strom Thurmond
William F Buckley

















they're all good republicans now :D
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:40 AM
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82. Is that you "Nastiest Republicans" list? (FXSTD/I)
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:43 AM
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84. could be
...but actually it's my "the only good republican is a dead republican" list :D
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:45 AM
Original message
In the words of my young son, "true that".
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drmeow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:35 PM
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161. LOL!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:54 AM
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166. Ouch!
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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:34 AM
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71. Lowell Weicker from CT
Lowell Palmer Weicker, Jr. (born May 16, 1931) is an American politician who has served as a U.S. Representative, U.S. Senator, and Governor of Connecticut, and unsuccesfully ran for the Republican nomination for President in 1980.<1> Though a member of the Republican Party during his time in Congress, he later left the Republican Party and became one of the few independents to be elected as a state governor in the United States in recent years. Since his retirement from political office, he has moved more towards the Democratic Party.

Weicker was born in Paris, to American parents and is a graduate of the Lawrenceville School (class of 1949), Yale University (1953), and the University of Virginia School of Law (1958).<2> He began his political career after serving in the United States Army (1953-1955) after the Korean War.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowell_P._Weicker,_Jr.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:14 AM
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181. seconded. nt.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:34 AM
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73. I've got a few
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 11:43 AM by butlerd
Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)-One of the few decent ("old-school") Republicans in Congress and pretty much the only Republican that I've ever felt o.k. voting for. It's true that he has been pretty loyal to Bush on most issues but he has a much more pragmatic approach towards foreign policy and has been a LOT more skeptical of Bush's Iraq invasion/occupation than most of them have been (which is really saying a lot IMHO). He is also one of the few Republicans that I would say is willing to take a truly bipartisan approach to dealing with issues. It is quite unfortunate that he and other more moderate Republicans have become so marginalized over the years.

Based on what I've heard (despite his support of the Whitewater investigations) about his outrage about the lack of accountability regarding money given to contractors in Iraq and possible war profiteering from from Al Franken ("The Truth") and some floor speeches he has given, Jim Leach seems like another decent Republican (he was defeated in 2006).

I've also heard positive things about Senators Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe here and elsewhere in terms of their more "liberal" stances on a lot of issues but I haven't heard about them defying Bush on anything particularly important (how did they end up voting on Iraq withdrawal legislation?) and it seems like, according to Franken, Collins, who was head of some important investigatory committees when Republicans were in charge of Congress, seemed to pretty much go along with the overall GOP plan of covering up and/or refusing to investigate allegations of serious wrongdoing in favor of trivial problems (i.e. "diploma mills").

I don't like his positions on most issues and I have some strong concerns about he got elected in the first place (electronic voting fraud?) based on Jack Clark's "Blast the Right" podcast but Hagel seems to have been very vocally opposed to Bush's handling of the ongoing occupation in Iraq but, of course, he's leaving Congress this year, so he won't be able to help get us out of Iraq in the next Congress. Although, hopefully, we won't need him anyway.

*Basically, at this point, my standard for a "good" Republican is somebody who is not blindly partisan to the point that they will say or do anything if its what their President and/or party wants (and ONLY for that reason), somebody who is genuinely willing to work with the other members of Congress to achieve TRUE compromise and agreement on how to address important social and political problems, and, most importantly, somebody who is able and willing to stand up to their President and/or party when they feel a personal conviction to do so.*
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Doobie Newbie Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:38 AM
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76. Eisenhower
He made that prescient speech about the "military industrial complex".

Barry Goldwater was 50%. He did people in civil liberties, but he was a Chicago School economic supporter.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:44 AM
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86. None.
:popcorn:
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:45 AM
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89. Nope.
I don't come here to be bipartisan.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:46 AM
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91. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:48 AM
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92. William Holden
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Hayduke Lives Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:48 AM
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93. Tom McCall - Gov. of Oregon in 60's and 70's
McCall's two terms as Oregon's governor were notable for many achievements in the environmental sphere, including the country's first "bottle bill", the cleanup of the Willamette River, passage of a law to maintain public ownership of the state's beaches, and the first statewide land-use planning system, which introduced the urban growth boundary around the state's cities.

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:55 AM
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96. James Jeffords (OK, not NEARLY as decent as Bernie Sanders who replaced him...)
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 11:55 AM by calipendence
... but at least he knew when it was time to leave that neocon mess when he did! Gotta give him credit for that, which is more than I can say for a lot of those other "moderate" Republicans we have today, which still empower these bastards, whether completely willingly or not.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 11:56 AM
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97. The late Lee Sherman Dreyfuss.
A wonderful public speaker, A decent governor, and a man who vehemently opposed the Wisconsin GOP's plans to slash funding for the University system. He also was a adamant supporter of gay rights, and wrote several editorials opposing the constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:00 PM
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99. And those not in elected office? Try Scott Ritter, Russell Tice, Bruce Funk, Carol Lam...
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 12:02 PM by calipendence
Though Carol Lam became an independent not long before she was "taken down" by this administration...

Also Paul Craig Roberts, John Dean...
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:06 PM
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102. Dr Kenneth Noisewater
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:09 PM
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104. gawd, i'd love to say what i really think
but i'm sure it would violate the TOS.
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Ordr Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:10 PM
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106. If it's to me, feel free to send a private message.
I'm not a tattletale. :)
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:10 PM
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108. Bill Clinton?
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 12:11 PM by fascisthunter
he was "ok"
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:07 AM
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176. DADT, DOMA, NAFTA, Telecom Deregulation, Glass-Steigel gutting...
He was a *LOUSY* President and while being very
Republican, wasn't at all the kind that's on our
side because of "principles".

Tesha
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:18 PM
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113. The late Jay Hammond, governor of Alaska 1974-1982
and "father of the Alaska Permanent Fund."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Hammond

I happily voted for him in 1978, and have no regrets. He was a true gentleman and visionary and one of the few Republicans I have had total respect for.
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coriolis Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:31 PM
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116. If anybody mentioned William Cohen I missed it. I'm not aware of anything
bad about him...and he worked for Bill. And I'm mostly okay with Chuck Hegel. There aren't many, though, for sure.
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:48 PM
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119. Teddy Roosevelt
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:56 PM
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124. Absolutely TR
National Parks, the classic "criticism of the president" quote
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:11 PM
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129. Currently reading a book about the 1912 election ... should be interesting.
TR felt his successor (Taft) was not living up to progressive ideals, was willing to split the R vote rather than see the party turn away from the good start he had made.

TR's only reason for not running in 1908 was ... he had promised not to. :(
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:40 PM
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136. I read "The River of Doubt" last year.
It's about TR and others on an expedition to navigate an uncharted river in the Amazon. Absolutely amazing read.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:57 AM
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168. Imagine - a Republican keeping a promise. nt
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:27 PM
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199. Taft was not very different from TR...
Actually, Taft broke up more business monopolies than TR, and he did more to preserve wilderness (creating national parks/forests). But he did fire the Secretary of the Interior who was appointed by Roosevelt, which got a lot of TR-Republicans mad. And he compromised with businesses a lot, but not more than Roosevelt, but unlike Roosevelt, he didn't have the ability to sell it to the Congress and the people.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:51 PM
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122. My aunt
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:08 PM
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128. Paul O'Neill?
He's been pretty critical of the Chimp Administration in the last few years.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:31 PM
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132. If only for keeping Oliver North from the Senate
John Warner
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Ronnie Roach Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:37 PM
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134. Name ONE good independent president for the last 246 years.
My vote is George Washington!

Visit my site.
http://www.youtube.com/user/roach2001
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:39 PM
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135. Stew McKinney (CT04)
his name is attached to the McKinney-Vento homelessness act.

In southwest Conn. in '76, it was not uncommon to see Carter/Mondale and McKinney stickers on the same car. And this is an affluent area with many two-car families, so it probably wasn't the result of a "mixed marriage" (like Mom's), either.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:04 PM
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137. Pete McCloskey
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:16 PM
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138. Jeffords
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:56 AM
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167. Seconded
(Or Third - there was one nomination earlier).
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:22 PM
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139. Thomas Dewey, a pro-New Deal Republican
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:26 PM
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140. Oh poo, our very own Randite has left the building...
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:04 PM
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150. I guess we won't have to endure that sig line s(he) had anymore
or questions like in the OP. I'm less than mortified at the exit.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:43 AM
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174. Good Riddance to Bad Rubbish.
"Libertarian" - When "Republican" becomes unfashionable.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:20 PM
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143. Teddy Roosevelt
Dwight D Eisenhower

and in a few respects (EPA mostly) Nixon.

After that.... nope, not really
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:21 PM
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144. Everett Dirksen, Howard Baker
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:29 PM
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146. Ike. TR. Vandenberg (foreign policy only). I managed three, quite an accomplishment!
It took some doing, though. ;-)
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 04:54 PM
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147. OK, not "good", but surprising...
Nixon. Yes, he was a "crook" and mentally unstable. He was also far more liberal than Bill Clinton - OSHA, EPA, major diplomatic overtures to Soviet Union and China... and much more. Makes me wonder if the reason the republicans finally asked him to step down had less to do with Watergate, and more to do with they wanted a liberal republican out and a conservative puppet they could control in the WH.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 02:02 AM
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170. Which does put a whole new spin on him --
with the assassination cover-up guy waiting in the wings, maybe Nixon had good reason to be paranoid.

And, technically, he was NOT a crook - he just hired crooks. The crook was his VP, who went to jail where he wouldn't have to listen to the nattering naybobs of negaitivism in DC.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:30 PM
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200. They hated his policy toward the Soviet Union and China.
However, I doubt they hated his illegal expansion of the Vietnam War into neutral Cambodia and his administration violently overthrowing Salvador Allende in Chile (installing Augusto Pinochet).
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:04 PM
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151. Tom McCall
McCall's two terms as Oregon's governor were notable for many achievements in the environmental sphere, including the country's first "bottle bill",<1> the cleanup of the Willamette River,<2> passage of a law to maintain former Gov. Oswald West's legacy of public ownership of the state's beaches, and the first statewide land-use planning system, which introduced the urban growth boundary around the state's cities.

In 1970, McCall was faced with a potential riot in Portland. In May of that year, a week-long student protest at Portland State University over the Kent State shootings had ended with charges of excessive police violence. The American Legion had scheduled a convention in Portland later that summer; local antiwar groups were organizing a series of demonstrations at the same time under the name of the "People's Army Jamboree", and expected to draw up to 50,000 protesters.<9>

After attempts to convince the People's Army Jamboree to either not carry out their plans or to move the date, McCall decided to hold a rock festival at Milo McIver State Park near Estacada, Oregon called "Vortex I: A Biodegradable Festival of Life", in imitation of the famous Woodstock Festival held the previous year.<10>

"I think I just committed political suicide," McCall is reported to have remarked immediately after approving the event. Vortex was the first and so-far only state-sponsored rock festival in US history.<10><11>

The festival, nicknamed "The Governors Pot Party" by Oregonians, was a success, attracting between 50,000 and 100,000 people. Gold, The Portland Zoo, Osceola, Fox, and Chrome Cyrcus were among the bands that played. The media was announcing that Santana, Jefferson Airplane and the Grateful Dead were on the way but none of them appeared. The feared violent clash between the antiwar groups and the conservative American Legion was avoided, and the city of Portland passed the summer relatively uneventfully. And in the general election that November, McCall was returned to office with 56% of the vote.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_McCall
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:05 PM
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152. Richard Clarke
He might be an Independent actually but I remember reading somewhere that he is a Republican.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:18 PM
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157. Dan Evans, former Washington Governor.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:19 PM
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158. Charles Percy, Senator from Illinois.
As a Republican, he was pretty decent.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:35 PM
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160. Wisconsin's Robert M. La Follette aka "Fighting Bob"
he hated corporate criminals and political corruption with a passion-Bob was a true progressive

Robert M. LaFollette page from Wisconsin History.org
http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/tp-035/
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:58 PM
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164. I'll name you two....
Bob Roberts





Alex P. Keaton

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 01:57 AM
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169. Charles Mathias of Maryland.
Warren Knowles here in Wisconsin as well.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 05:33 AM
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173. TR
it's a very short list...
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:55 AM
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178. Nelson Rockefeller
How do you not like the guy...

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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 10:59 AM
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179. You would choose Goldwater, who opposed Civil Rights for African-Americans?
Goldwater, who wanted to do away with Social Security? Goldwater, who advocated using nuclear weapons in Vietnam? Goldwater was the first exponent of the 'New Right'.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:15 AM
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182. Easy: Theodore Roosevelt.
He was a progressive (who would later help in founding the Progressive Party when the Republicans nominated William Howard Taft again in 1912).

Federal regulation of businesses began with Roosevelt. He worked hard to pass legislation banning trusts ("trustbusting"), e.g. via the Department of Justice, he ordered the end of trusts in railroad-, oil- and meatpacking companies, because he felt they exploited the public merely for profit. Thanks to Roosevelt, in 1906 the 'Meat Inspection Act' and the 'Pure Food and Drug Act' were signed into legislation.

T.D. also was an environmentalist. He worked hard for conserving natural riches by naming the national monuments. He felt the federal government should regulate this, instead of the states. He created five national parks. He tripled the number of national forests and he expanded the size of these forests.

In his last year in office, he harshly criticized big business and called for more governmental regulation. He believed a small government wouldn't be sufficient to protect the regular citizens.

His major fault however, is that he was a product of his time and therefore was convinced of 'white supremacy' over blacks.

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:29 AM
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David Vitter
I heard that he tipped well.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:33 AM
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191. Hey, I see we have identical sig lines
It had to happen sooner or later!! Greetings!!:hi: :hi:
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:29 AM
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187. Chuck Hagel
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:37 AM
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194. DING DING DING DING
winner!

I agree!
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:30 AM
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188. Teddy Roosevelt
" To announce that there should be no criticism of the President, or that we should stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, it is morally treasonable to the American public."
That quote both puts TR on the list, and disqualiifes each and every current Republican official from that same list.
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 11:44 AM
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195. Senator George Aiken (R-VT); Declare victory and get the hell out.
n/t
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:15 PM
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197. I could name a bunch, but for one, Eisenhower. nt
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:18 PM
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198. Teddy Roosevelt
Hey his term was winding down about a hundred years ago.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 12:46 PM
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201. Wes Clark. (he was a repuke for most of his life)
Personally, I have no issues with Clint Eastwood, Robert Duvall, Ben Stein or Fred Grandy (The Love Boat's "Gopher" and former rep from Iowa). Jack Kemp wasn't all that bad either.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 01:19 PM
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202. The 66th Rep. majority?
Hiram Warren Johnson was quoted as saying "the first casualty when war comes, is truth" with regard to WWI

Dr. Lewis Heisler Ball In June 1919 he cast his vote in favor of the Nineteenth Amendment providing for Women's suffrage.

Republicans were driving the women's suffrage movement.
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