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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:27 PM Original message |
Infanticide, rape, physical abuse, child abandonment, incest, genetic deformities |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Thank you. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. once more from me |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Thank you, Iris. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
67. Here's an article about Fumarase Deficiency, a result of inbreeding in the polygamous FLDS cults |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:43 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Thank YOU! That 4 paragraph limit was killing me. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. That article was not included in your OP. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Thank you...again. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. This should be fun... |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. KnR for a well-researched and informative post. Thank you Cerridwen for speaking up. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. For those who have not yet learned that they, too, can speak up. |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. Word up |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I choose, for the time being, to attribute it to ignorance; that is, |
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Frank Cannon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. You put a lot of work into that post, and I appreciate it |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Thank you for saying so. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. Bunch of sick ass law breaking freaks, mostly with big heads. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. There's a joke in your post I'm resisting... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. LOL, I know where you're "heading." |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. . |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. K and R'd .... |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Not today you won't... |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
11. Thank you for this post! From a born-in-the-covenant EX-Mormon and fellow descendent of polygamists. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I'm honored. |
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Kitty Herder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. I'm glad if I was able to help, but you've provided so much more information in this one post |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
16. I must have missed something...who is defending this crap? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. It's against DU rules to call out another DUer, and this isn't just DUers. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. You still are calling out other DUer's... |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. If a DUer has posted some of the things I listed, then yes, that |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Some have suggested that some of the children should be left behind b/c they might not be victims of |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. That sounds like ignorance talking... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. my thoughts exactly |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I have a couple of criticisms for the TX authorities |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. good point, and maybe naively in the back of my mind, I think of those "authorities" |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
310. Not so naive. I posted a link to a report of what happened in 1953 when |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I agree. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. I say ignorance because there are some who don't fully grasp... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. that's a good point. Somehow the arguments seem to be that the gov't. is interfering with the |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
315. They apparently have a different definition of religion than I. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. The children and the women are in the hands of those they have |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. yes. How many babies have been born in the 4 years since they moved to TX? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. And what, precipitated those births? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
126. I have seen some "DUers" up in arms about the supposed violation |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #126 |
287. Okay then let's all quit bitchin about the warrantless wire taps and searches. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #287 |
303. i think there is enough evidence crime was committed, we will have to see |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #303 |
308. I'm not ignoring crimes. I have yet to see any REAL evidence of crimes. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 05:34 PM Response to Reply #308 |
309. are you fuckin kidding me. i can see a 14 yr old being raped by her 50 yr old oldman |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #308 |
320. Perhaps someday you'll take the words of women as valid |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #320 |
340. I hear ya and I feel ya. But this is just one side of it. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #308 |
334. Here, I'll type slowly for you. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #287 |
316. Where in the Constitution does it say one must allow rape, infanticide, |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Is witnessing abuse being a victim of abuse (for a child)? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. An abusive home is just that. One doesn't leave behind children |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
112. Self-delete (posted in wrong spot) |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. here.. |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
66. self-edit -- someone beat me to it. nt |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
28. BEST. POST. EVER. ...........give the girl a standing ovation!!!!! |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. The only problem with this post that I see is |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Yeah, brevity is not usually my forte... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. well, if I ever saw a case against brevity, this was it! |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
212. You did a magnificent job. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. "We are famil-eeeee" |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. I guess I have a bee up my butt about Mormons because of how |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Ah, the stories you and I could tell and "swap" |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
29. And has anyone brought Warren Hatch the evidence? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
317. If you mean |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
31. I watch very little msm tv.... |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. Ah, the "fathers" are never responsible in this type of environment |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #56 |
115. My pleasure.... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. K & R |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. K&R #19 |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
58. Thank you. n/t |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
57. Thank you, ma'am. n/t |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
40. Those who would condone the lifestyle of this cult.. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Honestly, I don't even think they cared about rescuing anyone. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
59. Perhaps. Sometimes, we "get" to settle for the |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. True. But those who might be influenced by their words most |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
207. I am amazed at just how many people like this are still around! |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
52. The sad thing is, the Eldorado kids are lucky - they got out. There are thousands still out there |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. and Canada... |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I fear this might make the rest of them go deeper into hiding |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Very good, and sad, point. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
123. hubby was asking last night. where do they get all the money. obvi ously |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #123 |
134. They own alot of companies |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #134 |
139. it is simply harvesting females for their use and the slave labor until to much trouble |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 06:00 AM Response to Reply #123 |
293. They save quite a bit.... |
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prairierose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #53 |
122. Cerridwen, there is a fairly new one... |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:55 PM Response to Reply #122 |
314. Hi prairierose. Thank you for reminding me. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
60. I can recommend once, but you can help get this through the GD:P noise on the FP. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. FP? Front page? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #64 |
89. Yes. n/t |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
62. Outstanding. I read only today that MANY of the children |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. No, I can't. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
283. That's not true. |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #283 |
299. Well, DUH. That is the whole point. This entire thing is so |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #283 |
318. How do you know so much of the "mindset" of this group? n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
65. Thank you --- had no idea of these numbers!! |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. You're welcome. eom |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
68. K&R |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Thank you. n/t |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
70. Wow! All the info that is coming out about this case is so overwhelming. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Overwhelming...good point. |
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Wind Dancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
74. Thanks for posting all your research. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. You're welcome. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
75. You forgot another form of negligent homicide. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Oh, my gawd! Thank you! |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #76 |
135. I mentioned that because I've had a baby by C-section. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
128. We'll never know about the ones who died. Remember, |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
77. Personally I prefer Bill Maher's take on it. NT |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Which is? n/t |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Tied it to the Pope's visit and the Catholic church's "problem" |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Please, do tell, what other words would you like to put in my mouth or ideas |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
177. You said it! "Civil liberties for the guys" is what it is to me. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. kinda like the due process we are waiting in our military for rape of women. or the rapes by |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I don't see how that relates, but if you do, ok. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:52 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. i dont want to rein in religion. it is not mine ot tell someone to or not to do their religion |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Not cultS - this particular group. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #95 |
116. Whether you like it or not religion is core to this event. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #116 |
319. Please, do not equate this group with religion. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
210. So...leave them alone until....what, exactly? |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
226. This is nothing like Waco, fortunately. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. since maher has never said a nice thing about women or children, what |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
86. i went onto the other thread you are refering to. i gotta believe it is internet pumping of chest |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Hi seabeyond. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. It's not funny to anyone with an ounce of compassion |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:55 AM Response to Original message |
90. How utterly sickening. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:08 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. seems lots of males on this board. i am not seeing a single woman, moms |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:45 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. *sigh* I found one. She's not defending what happens so much as blaming |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:56 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. perfect... the beavis and butthead. proudly. the look at how stupid i am |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. "Stupid should be painful" |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. oh man... that is funny. unfortunately it is painful for all of us but the stupid |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:15 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. I blame limbaugh and reagan. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #100 |
168. Anton LaVey |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #168 |
276. Who is the head of the Church of Satan and author of the Satanic Bible. |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #276 |
282. It sounds like you are the one who needs convincing |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #282 |
285. Canabalism is "clownish"? |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 03:15 AM Response to Reply #285 |
289. Remind me to never have daycare at yours. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:17 AM Response to Reply #289 |
291. Please don't! I already have 50 God children. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #291 |
326. Do their mothers know? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #276 |
322. I have no concerns about what "fundies" think. They are beyond reason |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #168 |
332. Thank you...I think. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 07:29 AM Response to Reply #332 |
345. Bill Engvall. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #97 |
142. Who, pray tell, are you talking about? I posted regarding the women |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #142 |
323. Not you. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:41 AM Response to Reply #90 |
96. We're (in the US) a bit confused as to what religion is these days. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. any behavior abusing the children and women cloak as religion |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:08 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Precisely. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #101 |
250. Spare the rod and spoil the child. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #250 |
251. i have never spanked my children. my 13 year old, 7th grade took SAT with seniors |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #251 |
254. That's great. But not all children are like that. Not all children are the same. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #254 |
255. i think it has more to do with social environment, two working parents |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #255 |
261. Obama is the product of a single parent home. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #261 |
265. i was spanked when i was a kid. i dont have an issue or am anti spanking |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #261 |
325. Off topic, much? n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #325 |
327. figured out today why he went on the rant about spanking. to justify the waterboarding of babies |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #250 |
281. Bollocks. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #250 |
324. I would suggest, that you are hardly a shining example of what corporal |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #250 |
341. Rape children so they won't engage in school shootings. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
93. knr |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Thank you. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
105. Isn't religion a protected category? How can the state say a certain religion isn't protected? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:33 AM Response to Reply #105 |
107. I think it would work that way if we had one standard definition of religion. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. rape is not protected. well n theory it isnt. seems our good old boy network |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #108 |
230. Rape is also just considered part of life if you are unfortunate enough to be one |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #230 |
234. i will be the first to defend. it makes me sick. i would love to do something about that |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #105 |
120. Religion and belief are protected. Practice is not necessarily. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:11 AM Response to Reply #120 |
125. But what's "underage"? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #125 |
127. this child is born in and has no say from the time of conception to end of life |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #125 |
132. 1. Let's confine the discussion to TX 2. You're making assumptions. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Yes, you're right, I'm making assumptions |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #133 |
157. Many legal determinations have an arbitrary character, but |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 03:13 AM Response to Reply #125 |
288. Those are just the legal concepts. Then there are the religious concepts of adulthood. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #288 |
311. i don't remember that part of the bat mitzvah |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #125 |
328. No, no, no. What is consent? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #105 |
130. EVERYONE'S religious rights end where another person's body begins. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #130 |
137. I like that, but does it really conform to the Constitution? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. why can you ignore rape, child abuse, torturing babies for religious constitutional |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #138 |
141. I *DON'T* ignore that. That's what I'm trying to get at. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #141 |
148. What about this do you NOT get????? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #141 |
149. rape does not get shadowed by any religious belief, nor sacrifice of human |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #141 |
150. By reading relevant court cases. Here's starter... |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #150 |
161. And the Supreme Court has also said that factual innocence is no bar |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #161 |
294. why this particular ruling is not legitimate? |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 03:59 AM Response to Reply #150 |
290. Neither of these cases interfere with the practice of religion. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #290 |
295. To me, the relevant passage is |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:06 PM Response to Reply #295 |
307. I take issue with his use of the word coincidence. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #141 |
152. Oh, dear, how shall we EVER keep the satanists from practicing human sacrifice? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. Are you really this thick?... a question i am often asking of some males concerning |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #154 |
165. This particular one is obviously a direct descendant of the |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #152 |
231. You are simply failing to understand the MORAL authority of the church. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #231 |
300. I believe your conflating the secular "human sacrifice" vs. religious practices |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #141 |
225. One person's constitutional rights end where someone else's begin |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #141 |
335. "Religion" is not always a choice. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #137 |
144. The Constitution allows for the courts to decide when |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #144 |
160. No law is superior to the Constitution. That's what makes it the Constitution |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. There are no Constitutional issues in the FLDS case. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #164 |
228. That depend upon how you define rape. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. This is one of the most sickening posts I've ever read at DU. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #229 |
232. this "man" feels the need to make women not only less, but |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #232 |
237. No! I'm simply telling you how it was. Caligula married his Horse. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #237 |
238. That's irrelevant |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #238 |
253. We are also discussinng the Constitution and Religion. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #253 |
257. no we are discussing this group and the abuses.... not the mens constitutional rigths to abuse |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #253 |
262. Understand THIS, then: |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #262 |
271. YES OR NO. No one has answered this question. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #271 |
273. of course a person, male or female can be submissive to the other. that is generally |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #273 |
277. That's the longest Yes I've ever seen. LMAO |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:19 PM Response to Reply #277 |
278. sins of eve my ass. adam was the one the couldnt handle the pressure |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:31 PM Response to Reply #278 |
280. Hey it's not my religion. While we respect their religion and their right to practice it. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:42 PM Response to Reply #271 |
333. Only if you consider the act of sex as one person "submitting" to another. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #237 |
244. no. i do not believe that was your intent. i believe the intent was to put down women |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #244 |
258. No. I believe in womens rights. My mother was sufragette. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #258 |
260. i live in the bible belt in panhandle of texas. i am not about |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #260 |
269. I'm opposed to those things too. Contrary to what those who are trying to vilify me say. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #269 |
270. i am comfortable where the ages are. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #270 |
279. What I find interesting is what biblical or religious justifications they have that could be used |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #269 |
296. Might I suggest the following... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #237 |
321. In the first place you're just wrong, Caligula made his horse a Senator. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:36 PM Response to Reply #229 |
233. i am saying, he is not even worth addressin. i think people probably stopped |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #233 |
235. I'm just astounded that there are people defending child rapists and wife rapists at DU |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #235 |
245. he last to thump his chest a lot. those are not men to take seriously at all |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #228 |
259. Wow - are you really defending marital rape as a man's right in marriage? |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 04:48 AM Response to Reply #259 |
292. What I'm saying is that marital rape is a relatively new concept,. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #228 |
301. I imagine most people define rape as per the local and federal statutes |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #144 |
222. One problem with that. At the time of the writing of the constitution and about 100 or so years |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #222 |
227. no one talk to you on other thread anymore. gotta come in here to spout more |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #137 |
145. Congress shall make no law respecting establishment of religion. |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #145 |
166. I'm going to drop out here. It's just too unpleasant to have vile words |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #166 |
178. You wanna defend the FLDS and it's doctrine of child rape, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #178 |
183. vile words too unpleasant for guy, yet girls being raped and babies being water tortured |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #137 |
329. Where do you see *choice* in the actions of the people within this group? |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #105 |
136. real issue: it is the polygamy with children below legal age of consent |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-21-08 12:42 AM Response to Reply #105 |
352. Because human beings also have a right not to be abused. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
106. I'll push back a little. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:40 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. I agree. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
110. Pretty damn amazing post |
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Habibi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
111. Thank you, Cerridwen. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
113. Thank you! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #113 |
131. ANY sex by an adult with a girl under 16 in TX is RAPE. Doesn't matter if she |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
114. You've nailed exactly why I find this so very disturbing. |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
117. K&R Well thought out and extremely informative. Great post. |
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windoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
118. All cults should me banned in US |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. THAT, I would take issue with. |
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windoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #119 |
129. Perhaps the issue is with compliance |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #129 |
313. Let me expand a bit on why I think "banning" is such a bad idea. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #118 |
121. you ban that. yesterday 10 yr old said booze, cig bad, should be banned |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
124. Great work. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
140. K&R |
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windoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
143. Freedom of choice is a civil right, |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #143 |
256. Amen! Freedom only exists in a choice. |
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Missouri Blue (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
146. K&R-- they're despicable |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
147. Holy fuck, people are defending this shit?! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. YES....... can you believe |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #151 |
158. Sometimes I do. Then reality sets in. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #158 |
162. you know.... something happened. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
153. well I don't know much about this issue |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. to support abuse of fellow human being is to be left? wow. i didnt know. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #156 |
159. no |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #159 |
163. this is why i am bothered. i have been seeing a lot, way too many lately |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. it is shocking when you put it all together like that |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #159 |
172. It's a big circle, the further left you go the closer to the right you are. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #172 |
185. you know..... mountain man |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Just connect the farthest left and the farthest right and you complete the circle. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. something to be said sittin the absolute, motionless, middle.....stillness. lol lol |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:26 PM Response to Reply #190 |
196. That is called mindfulness meditation. Where ever you go, there you are. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. ya, you dont even know |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:33 PM Response to Reply #172 |
199. Yup. The ultra left and ultra right whackjobs meet up on the backside. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #153 |
198. Well, NO. This is more like so far to the right it makes the John Birch Society |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #198 |
202. no, you are wrong. the people defending this |
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northamericancitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
155. K & R nt |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
169. this needs a kick. I'm really saddened to see people making fun of these women on other threads |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #169 |
170. we are such a different people today than just a mere decade ago. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
171. Deleted message |
Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. Your wives "know their place," no doubt. Black people did in 1950s Louisiana (where I'm from), too. |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #171 |
176. it's about the FLDS |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #171 |
191. Did you even READ the OP? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #191 |
193. be careful, this poster also suggest smart girl was with her man and that |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #171 |
200. Believe it or not, the FLDS legal case really has nothing to do with |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #200 |
203. i see it as harvesting girls for entertainment of men. n/t |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
173. Need to Bookmark This.... Kick! (nt) |
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LulaMay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
174. It's crazy anyone would even try to justify it. Those who do, what are your motives? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #174 |
180. Deleted message |
kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:39 PM Response to Reply #180 |
204. So, in your circles, what does one do with the excess males??? |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #204 |
243. Hmm, looks like the freak doesn't have an answer. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #243 |
246. delete, i got mean with the pathetic.... n/t |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #246 |
247. Oh, let it out, seabeyond... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #247 |
248. oh... you know keeping the left hand busy cause cant get a woman |
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Corgigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #243 |
306. Thanks for posting what I was thinking |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
179. Well Cerridwin, I have a hard time dealing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #179 |
184. Deleted message |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. he stole her, raped her, held her.... you are sick to paint it any other way |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:37 PM Response to Reply #184 |
201. You have GOT to be kidding me. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #184 |
205. Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped and brainwashed AS A CHILD. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #205 |
268. There are many examples of |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #184 |
217. Oh, fer chrissakes! Did you ever hear of Stockholm syndrome? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. he CLAIMS to have many HAPPY wives. if this is him figurin women, ya |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #184 |
240. Go... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #240 |
264. Whew, at least now I don't have to worry about getting in trouble for |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #184 |
242. Dear, sweet, Lord. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #184 |
249. You Sick Twisted Individual |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
181. K&R, with thanks. nt |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
182. Kicked and recommended. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
187. There is no excusing this |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:06 PM Response to Reply #187 |
192. Deleted message |
seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. again, stating elizabeth smart willingly allowed self kidnapped from her bed? n/t |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:18 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. This is a question of law, not approval |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #192 |
211. Elizabeth Smart aided and abetted NOTHING. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:32 PM Response to Reply #211 |
272. What's going on here? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #272 |
302. Maybe trolls have infiltrated the ranks of our mods? |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #302 |
305. As near as I could tell, |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #192 |
214. Elizabeth Smart did NOT choose to be with that man |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #214 |
218. dont you think this poster is a full of shit adolescent boy saying outrage to anger people |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #218 |
241. I'm pretty sure he's a fake, and he's about 12 years old. |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #241 |
274. Even if it is a 12-year old, it's very disturbing |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #192 |
221. OMG are you blaming Elizabeth Smart for getting kidnapped and raped? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #187 |
209. Thank you. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:06 PM Response to Reply #209 |
223. No problem, it needs to be said. n/t |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #187 |
312. I've stayed out of here ... |
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myrna minx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
189. I just ache for these women and children. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
206. Truly outstanding post. k*r Hats off to Texas law enforcement and child protection folks |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #206 |
267. That's not true. They say they were kicked out and not allowed |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #267 |
339. It is true. They chose to go back to the compound when they lost their phones. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
208. Completely agree with you. Keep fighting. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #208 |
213. yes. what is it? n/t |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
215. And we all know how scrupulous Texas sheriffs are about upholding civil rights |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #215 |
350. ""Outcry" is a term meaning that someone called in a complaint |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
216. K&R ...Rot in Hell Warren Jeffs |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #216 |
224. From your lips to God's ears |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
220. K & R |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
236. Take a bow...most amazing post I've ever seen on DU..well done |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
239. "I lived thirty five years of my life in fear and terror" |
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Bettie (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
252. Thank you for putting this together |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
263. Trial my media sucks |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
266. THEY CAN READ?!!!!!?????!!!!! |
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Andrea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
275. Fantastic job you've done on this |
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Faux pas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
284. Great job! Saving it for later when my brain is on full function. |
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Moloch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
286. Thank you! |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
297. Apparently, you can add bigamy to the list: |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
298. I guess they finally came out, eh? n/t |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:14 PM Response to Reply #298 |
338. Apparently. It would seem that shining a light causes all kinds of things |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:04 AM Response to Reply #338 |
342. Unfortunately the scurrying things, or rather their bigger relatives, run the world |
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siligut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
304. I have copied and am saving this. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #304 |
337. Aw, gee. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
330. Thank you so much for your hard work compiling this Cerridwen |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #330 |
336. Good points all, the catburgler. |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-17-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
331. Here's a late night kick |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
343. I can't recommend this again. |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-18-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
344. I regret that I have but one "recommend" to give this thread :P |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
346. They will get away with it. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #346 |
347. i think so too, especially in todays climate. the boundary of fucking our children has become |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #347 |
348. Hi seabeyond. I want to take this opportunity to thank you for keeping |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #348 |
349. if it isnt religion it is the extreme left in personal right and freedom |
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VotesForWomen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-19-08 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
351. 'giving away' young daughters to uncles/cousins/brothers in law etc. for marriage is standard operat |
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