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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:56 AM
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Torturers In The White House: Why Is This Story Being Ignored?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 04:57 AM by Hissyspit
http://www.alternet.org/rights/82483

Torturers in the White House: Why Is This Story Being Ignored?

By Ruth Conniff, The Progressive. Posted April 17, 2008.

We now have confirmation that the President of the United States gave the OK to torture. Where is the media? Where are the Democrats?

The biggest news of the last week went virtually uncovered by the mainstream, print media. ABC News first reported last Wednesday that top Bush Administration officials, including Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, John Ashcroft, and George Tenet, Colin Powell, and Donald Rumsfeld met to discuss which particular torture techniques should be used against Al Qaeda suspects in U.S. custody.

The group signed off on specific techniques, including sleep deprivation, slapping, pushing, and waterboarding, and gave instruction "so detailed … some of the interrogation sessions were almost choreographed, down to the number of times CIA agents could use a specific tactic."

If John McCain is seriously considering Condoleezza Rice as a running mate, the former POW should keep in mind that Rice not only condoned torture, but chaired the National Security Council's "Principals Committee" meetings to plan the details of torture of prisoners in U.S. custody.

Then-Attorney General John Ashcroft was so troubled by the meetings, he was moved to object: "Why are we discussing this in the White House?" he asked, according to ABC. "History will not judge this kindly."

On Friday, ABC added this blockbuster: Bush himself was aware of the meetings. Unlike Ashcroft, he had no compunctions. There was nothing "startling" about the revelations that his top advisers were directing the waterboarding of individual prisoners, Bush told ABC's Martha Raddatz. "And yes, I'm aware our national security team met on this issue and I approved," Bush said.

Why is this not bigger news?

Remember when the nation was brought to a virtual standstill over Bill Clinton's affair with a White House intern?

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:10 AM
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1. Apparently they're waiting for him to lie about something
really really important...like sex. :sarcasm:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:52 AM
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2. The U.S. media exists to protect the Right.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 05:53 AM by Perry Logan
When a Democrat is President, the media will suddenly become VERY INTERESTED in even the slightest rumor of Presidential malfeasance.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:21 AM
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6. You hit the nail on the head.
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 06:22 AM by Herdin_Cats
Look what they did to Bill Clinton and what they're doing to Obama and Senator Clinton. They pick them apart over little things, all the while ignoring the some of the most horrible crimes imaginable from the current squatter in the White House. Oh, and kissing McCain's ass because they're apparently hoping for more of the same. It makes me so angry!
:banghead:

(edited for grammar)
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:47 AM
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8. They'll be ladling out the Kool-Aid from here to November.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:55 PM
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15. Its all just a game when they attack each other, they are on the...
same team overall. The media and the career politicians do what they can to keep Americans occupied and pissed about some side show while they rape us and our country for their benefit. Clinton cheating on his wife and family and getting his dick sucked was all just a sideshow to keep us sheeple busy, now they use more American idol and such to do the same thing...that just tells you we are getting dumber and easier to get over on as time goes by. Hopefully Americans have finally had enough by now and are going to make change this election cycle and continue to be involved instead of getting lazy and going back to sleep.



I wouldn't go buying into the whole republicans are evil and democrats are saints bullshit if I were you, go by all of their actions and it will show that we have very few representing we the people and way too many representing the elite and the money.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:16 PM
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30. bad Repig press is bad for shopping -- real patriots go shopping and ignore real news -- doncha know
thus, journalism is ignoring real news as well -- at the behest of marketeers and advertisers -- that's my theory
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12string Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:56 AM
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3. The Torture Administration
K&R Thank you Hissyspit for your efforts to keep this front and center where it belongs.This should be nonstop front page news until all guilty parties are held accountable.How anyone can be a proud American while turning a blind eye to these atrocities is unbelievable.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:02 AM
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4. Cuz lapel pin questions are just easier. And pointless.
And to this day, the specter of helpin them terrists still looms, despite BushCo being the single greatest recruitment tool Bin Hidin ever had.

And that specter sadly breeds Timidity.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:08 AM
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5. Keep the War going
The Military Industrial Complex demands it.

GE=Media=Jet Engines=ignore
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:08 PM
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36. the journalism requires little to no homework and the Oligarchy is appeased
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 06:22 AM
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7. "Move along. There is nothing to see here." - corporate media borg
"Big BushCo loves you." - Corporate media borg
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:58 AM
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9. .
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:59 AM
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10. Bittergate. There's a purpose for everything.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:33 AM
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34. diversionary politics trumps substance -- the chattering class is paid to play
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 10:12 AM
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11. Snipergate! Bittergate! Lapel pin! Et Cetera!
We all know these are the REAL issues this campaign season, not a bunch of terrorists getting denied some cable TV! :sarcasm:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 02:27 PM
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12. .
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 03:57 PM
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13. Verdict: A Lawyer's perspective on the news -- and Abrams has nothing...odd?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:02 PM
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14. Hmmmm... Maybe because fascism is already, quite neatly in place?
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 04:08 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Rice lied to Congress and if they wanted to, they could have her arrested. Why isn't there a warrant out for her arrest by our Democratically led Congress?

http://www.condimustgo.com
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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:57 PM
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16. M$M
Hides the truth...

All the time
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:43 PM
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17. frankly, the media has more important issues to be concerned with these days....
For example, why doesn't Senator Obama wear a flag pin on his lapel?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:47 PM
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18. kicked and recommended..they probably tortured with flag pins on
this story is going nowhere and i really can't understand why. this is absolutely criminal and against everything i thought my country stood for, yet nothing. nothing.

it may be much later than we thought.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:24 PM
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21. I hope these thugs will get their a$$es kicked, oh, I'm dreaming again.
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:17 PM
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19. The quick answer is they've either been bought off
or infiltrated, or scared to death for themselves and their families. A hearty K&R.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:23 PM
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20. alot of things are being ignored, these thugs should be called for
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 09:26 PM by alyce douglas
what they are WAR CRIMINALS.

the media here is as criminal as this regime is.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:29 PM
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22. kick
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:38 PM
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23. Hi alyce douglass!!
:)

The internet/bloggs will have to push this story onto the MSM like all the other stories
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:52 PM
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24. short answer--cuz the mainstream media went along with the "we don't torture" thing
so long, and didn't stand up to the bullies AS THEY KNEW THEY SHOULD

and now they would have to admit they were wrong.

Come on, we've all had to admit we are wrong. No big deal. right?

What if you make millions and a mistake ruins you and your entire Billion dollar organization?

wouldn't stop me from doing the right thing, but then my stupid to evil ratio is more stupid than evil.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 01:53 PM
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25. I am kicking this story
I just sent this to my Representative asking why everyone remains silent on this issue.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-18-08 02:04 PM
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26. Check out this story breaking
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 06:30 PM
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27. Kick...
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 03:49 PM
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28. "Torture victim's records lost at Guantanamo, admits camp general" by Elana Schor
(4-21-2008 Guardian)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/21/guantanamo.humanrights

"In Contravention of Conventional Wisdom: CIA 'no touch' torture" (active Editorials and Other Articles thread)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x333974
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:10 PM
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29. The majority of Americans support torturing evil Terrorists.
Whatever it takes to protect America is alright with the majority of Americans.
They just don't want to hear or read about it.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:16 PM
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31. Bullshit, or did you forget the sarcasm smilie?
American citizens certainly do not approve torture, the loss of civil rights, war as foreign policy, domestic psychological operations, war crimes, or any of the other fascist crap this criminal administration has done.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:37 PM
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39. M$M should ask Hagee , Dobson and Reed n/t
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 01:55 PM
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33. >>>KICK
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 04:20 PM
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32. Because they don't care?
"they" being everyone ignoring it
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:55 PM
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35. Kick
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:33 PM
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37. kick & recommended
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 03:34 PM by spanone
Error: You've already recommended that thread.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:34 PM
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38. Because I wasn't here?
:shrug:
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