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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 04:59 PM
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Upset over welfare for 'cult' members? consider for a moment..
Edited on Thu Apr-17-08 05:08 PM by G_j
just think about it, you may say this is a huge leap, but there are many salient points here, IMO.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article30056.html

The Tactics of Using Food as a Weapon.
by Michel Sitbon*

An estimate of three to five million people starved to death in North Korea from 1993 to 1998. After that, the World Food Programme (WFP) started to provide people with minimum food aid to prevent a catastrophe from happening again. However, based on arguments used by Washington, several humanitarian organizations, including Médecins Sans Frontières, protested against that aid which, according to them, helped the dictatorship to survive. The WFP announced then that it was forced to interrupt this vital aid, due to a lack of financing. Once again, the United States was able to use the issue of hunger to attack one of the last bastions of Stalinism without caring about the fate of civilians in that country.


The World Food Programme -one of the UN humanitarian agencies- announced over a year ago, exactly on January 19, 2004, through its representative in Beijing, Gerald Bourke, that it was forced to interrupt North Korea’s food aid programme at that time <1>.

Two million seven hundred thousand North Korean women and children -the neediest people that were benefited by the programme- had no food aid during the 2003-2004 Winter (December, January and February) as a result of the lack of international donations. The United States and Japan -main donors within the WFP- didn’t contribute the necessary financing.

Médecins Sans Frontières stands against the World Food Programme

A few days after that, the media echoed the criticism of several organizations that denounced the aid. According to them, the aid did not benefit the people but the dictator’s regime in that country. On December 30, 2003, the French newspaper, Libération, published an article entitled: “North Korea: a dictatorship that receives international transfusions” that echoed the criticism of the NGO, Médecins Sans Frontières, against the World Food Programme. «We know the food situation is serious and that it even tends to worsen», Sophie Delaunay, of MSF, explained, and she added: «But we also know that 25% of its population is considered hostile to the Government, and has never received an aid ration. We have asked the refugees within the vulnerable groups, whether they are Chinese or North Korean, and they have never received anything from the international community».

Christiane Berthiaume, spokesman of the WFP, headquartered in the UN premises in Geneva, Switzerland, was then asking without disguising his displeasure: «What do we have to do? Do we have to watch on television programmes children starve to death and remain seated because the distribution system is not perfect?»
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:11 PM
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1. Over and over, we keep REACTING to what we see as heinous, without FIRST
caring for the most vulnerable in the midst of it!

Thank you so much for shining a necessary light on this, and how we need to think much more deeply.

I'm so sad right now, reading the reactonary posts against the women and children involved in this HORRENDOUS mess in Texas.

I'm so very sad that what I see is an instantaneous reaction to cut them off, rather than to shed a tear in compassion.

As Michael Moore said, "Who are we?"

:cry:

:loveya:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:16 PM
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2. That is why I chose the unarguably heinous regime of N. Korea
as an example.

P.S. :yourock:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 07:11 PM
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5. A while back, I posted a thread about the conservative paradigm of poverty.
Today I see so many "liberals" saying the very same things.

And not seeing themselves.

It's very frightening.

And very sad.

Thanks, G_j! I'm just very disheartened..... it doesn't look like we humans will EVER get it.

:cry:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:40 PM
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4. I don't see anybody suggesting we cut the FLDS child victims off from food.
The children need to be placed into foster care (where they will presumably be fed); the men need to spend the rest of their lives in prison; any mothers who cooperate in prosecuting the men can have their kids back on condition of allowing them their basic human rights and submitting to supervision until all children grown. Any mothers who don't cooperate should meet the same fate as the men.

There is a pervasive, systematic culture of child sexual abuse, infant torture, male child abandonment and female reproductive enslavement in the FLDS.

No one has suggested we starve those kids.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:35 PM
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3. What to do?
Peace offerings. Cherry trees would be nice; like the Japanese gave to the U.S. in 1912. A million cherry trees is not the kind of gift North Korea could turn down without being complete dicks. And a million cherry trees might help to feed the North Korean people.

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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 08:49 PM
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6. We don't take very good care of our own, either. n/t
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