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yojon Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:34 PM
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Condi ridicules Sadr for cowardice
Source: LA Times via Truthout

Rice, in Iraq, Lashes Out at Muqtada al-Sadr
By Ned Parker
The Los Angeles Times

Sunday 20 April 2008


Baghdad - After long treating radical Shiite cleric Muqtada Sadr and his Mahdi Army militia gingerly, U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice ridiculed him Sunday as a man who asks his followers to fight to the death while he resides in safety in Iran.
Sadr, who on Saturday threatened to declare a formal end to a cease-fire he ordered for his militia in August, was also described by U.S. Ambassador Ryan Crocker as running a weakened military organization.
The comments came during an unannounced visit by Rice to the Iraqi capital, in which she praised Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's ongoing crackdown on militias. Most of the fighting has been directed at elements of Sadr's militia, but until Sunday, American officials had taken pains to separate Sadr from his more radical followers, who the U.S. claims receive training and arms from Iran.
At least 700 people have died in the fighting in southern Iraq and Baghdad since the government offensive was launched last month.
American officials had long credited Sadr's truce for having helped reduce sectarian violence in Iraq since September, a period coinciding with the increased U.S. troop presence in Iraq that began in early 2007.
But on Sunday, Rice jettisoned the delicacy with which senior American officials have tiptoed around Sadr in the last year, lashing out at the firebrand cleric.
"He is still living in Iran," she said. "I guess it's all-out war for anybody but him.

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Guess this is Condi's "Bring it on" moment. Maybe she will be on a vailiant steed leading the US troops courageously into battle? Kind of like the neocon Joan of Arc....

"His followers can go to their death and he will still be in Iran."
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:39 PM
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1. Not a diplomatic thing to say to an alleged insurgent with an army.
Condi's behavior is as enlightened as it was when she missed the USSR going broke when she was a Soviet expert, or shoe shopping when people were drowning during Katrina.

Unbelievable that this woman has any credibility whatsoever at this point.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:53 PM
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6. She ignored dozens of warnings before 9/11, too
Typical republicon homelander crony. She is the worst Sec. of state ever.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:00 PM
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7. Her incessantly repetitive automaton speech totally belies her alleged two PHD's.
Like chalk on a blackboard really.

That was not a racial slur BTW.

LOL

I may PM you about another group effort for the 2nd. Not sure as yet but it might be time.

Let me know if you want to collaborate again.

That was fun last december.

:hi:
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:00 PM
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8. What's actionable about any of that?
Condi many, many times before having to go under oath in front of the 9/11 commission:

"I don't think anybody could have predicted . . . that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."

Then she said she "mispoke."
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:40 PM
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2. "a man who asks his followers to fight to the death while he resides in safety in Iran"
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 02:41 PM by bowens43
Oh the irony!! I guess bush is right there boots on the ground in Iraq , huh?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:35 PM
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15. "You talking about me?" - Commander AWOL
"At least I didn't go the ass-pimple draft-dodging deferment route like Lardass Limbaugh, or O'Reilly, or Hannitty, or get Five Freaking Military deferments like Cheney. I'm, um, a, a Genuine Republicon Chickenhawk Heeero. Just ask my Mom."

- Commander AWOL
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:41 PM
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3. the "bring it on" diplomacy perfect by the incompetents in the Bushler admin
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:42 PM
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4. "She is still living in the USA," he said. "I guess it's all-out war for anybody but you, Condi."
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 02:43 PM by CottonBear
(What Al Sadr is thinking about saying to Rice...)
:grr:
I really detest that woman and her stupid "surprise" visits to Iran under cover of darkness.
She is a coward.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:51 PM
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5. As sneaking into Iraq
in the dark night and straight into the safety of the Green Zone isn't cowardice itself.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:03 PM
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10. Ahmadinejad arrived in the light of day and openly.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:01 PM
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9. After school, pally!
DUers of a certain age may remember that as the ultimate threat on the childhood playground. Someone who was mortally insulted would hiss those words, and it was ON, baby! If you didn't show up, you were a pussy. I read these comments by Dr. Rice, and I'm immediately transported to those halcyon days of yore, when differences were settled in the field across the street from the school. Sometimes an actual exchange fisticuffs was involved, but it was usually settled with two hits: One kid hitting the other once, and the other hitting the trail.

But then we turned 12, and such taunts just seemed kind of, I don't know, childish.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:07 PM
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11. As if her husband is some kind of fuggen hero .....



:rofl: :rofl:




Trump was right ....







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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:23 PM
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12. As if her words actually mean something to Sadr.
He just shrugs her off as a moron.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:29 PM
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14. he's no rocket scientist
he's a ruthless thug who's power base is dependent on his lineage. just like shrub. it is likely he'll rule iraq when we leave.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:38 PM
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16. Denigrate him all you like as you whistle past the graveyard.
He's playing a high-stakes game and doing pretty well. I think his power base may originally have been dependent on his lineage, but his anti-American line is bringing him more support from the Shia masses.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 06:06 PM
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17. who's denigrating?
i said he'll rule iraq when we leave. i just don't think he's THAT smart. he's GWB smart.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 03:27 PM
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13. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Condi are you mad? That expertise in Russia really paying off for you huh? Series.
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