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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:24 PM
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It is ih-RAHK ......... not EYE-rak
What's wrong with people?

No matter what side of the issue one is on, one really ought to know how to pronounce the country's name ....... no?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:26 PM
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1. It's just like you hippie Democrat Party types to keep harping on that!
:sarcasm:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:26 PM
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2. So, EYE-RAHK is no-good?
:D:hi:
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:24 PM
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21. EYE RAHK!
EYE :headbang: RAHK !
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:27 PM
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3. Today I heard Howard Wolfson calling Iran "eye-ran" ...
and I could swear I'd heard him pronounce it "ee-rahn" before.
I sometimes wonder if spokespeople intentionally mispronounce
countries' names as an added slight.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:32 PM
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12. In his case, it may be even more caclulated than that.
That's the way the knuckle draggers and war supporters all pronounce it. Since she's talking about bombing Iran, why not show that the team is as ignorant as the people to whom they're trying to appeal?

How soon until we get bushisms coming from them?

The fact is, Wolfson is way too smart not to know how to pronounce it properly.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:40 PM
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15. That's what I thought -- it had to be intentional, to be sending a message
Which frankly scared me.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:28 PM
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23. Like Poppy would say, "SA-dem" instead of "Sa- DOM" for Saddam Hussein. nt
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:27 PM
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4. Wolf Blitzer: Oh-Rock. n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:27 PM
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5. it's actually pronounced ' CLUSTERFUCK'
:toast:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:32 PM
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11. back at ya!
:toast:

:rofl:
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:28 PM
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6. Exactly.
and while we're at it... it's SOW-nuh, not sonna.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:30 PM
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7. Sure,Sure....
We'll all practice our pronunciation at the briefings to pick the target coordinates....
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:31 PM
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8. I learned the proper pronunciation when I was in fifth grade
A visiting Iraqi student gave a talk at my school. It wasn't so hard to learn how to pronounce the name correctly.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:31 PM
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9. I say "ear-ROCK". Shrub says "EYE-rack." I say "ear-rawn"; Shrub says "I-Ran."
It isn't hard to do or learn. But so many people say it wrong, that it is easy to forget the proper pronunciation.

"Pah-kis-stawn" is another one. I hate hearing "Pack-is-stan." I guess it applies to just about any of the -stans.

A friend who studied Russian said said it is "Mos-co", not "Mos-cow". It bothers me to hear "Mos-cow" now.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:34 PM
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14. I have a friend whose last name is Moskowitz
so I've always said Mos-coe...after all my friend's name is derived from the city Moscow.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:28 AM
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29. Yeah well Dear Mr. Pretzeldent says nookyoular
and a whole lot of other things incorrectly as well. He should be stripped of his citizenship for mangling the English language!
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:32 PM
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10. While we're at it....
It's ih-talian not EYE-talian.

OK?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:34 PM
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13. yes
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:55 PM
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16. Sure, and it's MayHeeCo, not Meksico
Deutschland, not Germany, Polska, not Poland, Nippon, not Japan.

While we're at it, I hope you are pronouncing our American place names correctly: Los ANheeLees (Los Angeles), Duhtwoi (Detroit), and so on. Make sure you get the proper amount of French pucker when you say that last one.

It's time to draw a line in the sand and end these egregious mispronunciations!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:13 PM
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20. Yes, but Berlin in New Hampshire is pronounced BER'-lyn.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:21 AM
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27. But can we all agree that people who say "Missourah" are just pandering?
Mayor Yorty of LA used to pronounce his city's name with a hard G. "Loss Ang Ga Leez" he'd say.
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:55 AM
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32. And don't forget that everyone has to say France (frahhnce)
not fraaance.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 07:59 PM
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17. How do you pronounce "Nevada"?
WRONG!
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:11 PM
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19. the first "a" is short. nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:00 PM
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18. the "Truck nutz" demographic.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:25 PM
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22. EE-RAK
That's what it sounds like to me when iraqis say the name of their country. It's just four letters, why is it so hard to say right?
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:50 PM
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25. because we didn't hear it when we were two years old
people of good will understand that pronunciation is something that most people can't learn after a certain age and they grow up and move on as long as everyone understands what is being said

you would never correct someone's pronunciation IRL unless it was a situation where they wanted you to (exchange student, foreign friend who has BEGGED you on multiple occasions to help her learn correct language and so on) -- yet we focus on this nonsense on the net

as long as everyone understands what country is being discussed, what is the issue here? time wasting, that's what
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:55 PM
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26. I think that's bullshit.
A lot of people can learn different languages, and proper pronunciation "after a certain age".

I've corredctd people, so others wouldn't laugh at them.

The issue here is RESPECT.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 08:43 PM
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24. maybe but i just heard an iraqi man say "eye rak" granted he'd been here 40 yrs
Edited on Tue Apr-22-08 08:45 PM by pitohui
i don't think it much matters, you are not speaking arabic or whatever, and your pronunciation is wrong no matter how right you think it is

the point of communication is to communicate, and people who have to use/speak multiple languages quickly learn that you can't be nitty about pronunciation, if everybody knows what's meant then it's cool


it annoys me to no end when ignorant fuckwits inform me that i live in "nawlins," no, i don't, and nobody except people who have watched too much teevee say "nawlins" but what do you do? those people are so convinced they are better than the fuckwits who say "new orleenz," guess what, they are actually worse, because they are not only wrong but they think they're right! (clue, the city name new orleans correctly pronounced has four syllables -- well, closer to three and a half syllables -- and neither nawlins or new orleenz qualify)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 07:23 AM
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28. New Madrid. ("Noo Mad Drid" they pronounce it).
Also there's Lebanon Tennessee (Leh b' nun) and Palestine Texas (Pal eh steen).
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:53 AM
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30. In Arkansas, we have
Lafayette County (pronounced luh-FAY-ette), Nevada County (nuh-VAY-duh), towns called Prague (PRAY-g), El Dorado (el-dor-RAY-doh), etc.

And I defy anyone not from around here to correctly pronounce Ouachita (the county, the river, the lake, or the national forest) the first time around. And no Googling.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 08:55 AM
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31. Americans, for the most part, are arrogant dumbshits
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Seeking Serenity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:23 PM
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33. kick (n/t)
:kick:
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:26 PM
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34. My future father in law calls Baltimore "Balmore."
I find it oddly endearing.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:54 PM
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36. delete
Edited on Wed Apr-23-08 02:54 PM by theboss
delete
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:57 PM
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38. Baltimorians who have a true Baltimore accent call it "BAWL-i-mer"
But I have also heard it BAL tee more and BAWL mir
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:27 PM
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35. I was told it is E RAAN non EYE RAN.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-23-08 02:55 PM
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37. I follow the lead of The Iron Shiek
Eee-ran Number One!
Russia Number One!
USA! Pa-toot!
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