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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 10:57 AM
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14 yr. old girl commits suicide by producing and inhaling poisonous hydrogen sulphide gas


cheese and crackers!

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index.php?smp=&lang=eng


About 120 people were evacuated from their apartments in western Japan after a 14-year-old girl killed herself by producing and inhaling poisonous hydrogen sulphide gas, the local fire department said on Thursday. Almost 90 people, including the girl's mother who had been out at the time, went to hospital in Konan City on Wednesday night after the apartment "smelled like rotten eggs" from the hydrogen sulphide that the girl made, the local fire department said. A note saying "poisonous gas being produced" was posted on the door of the girl's apartment, and police found a bathroom cleanser container in the apartment that may have been used for making the gas, the fire department said.)
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so many questions.....
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:01 AM
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1. Huh?
I don't see the connection between the link and the snip and your comments.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:07 AM
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4. it wasn't a snip, it was the whole report


you don't have any questions about it? like most 14 yr. old girls don't know how to kill themselves with this gas. what in her life made this girl want to die this way? etc., etc.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:16 AM
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5. Well, yes, I have a lot of questions
including the relevance of "cheese and crackers" to the story.

I did just find where it was on the linked site, but it took a lot of doing--you might edit the OP to tell people how to find it.

I'm not very surprised, though, at a teen suicide--teens kill themselves at a higher rate than most other age groups--and ditto for the Japanese versus other nationalities. I knew how not to make mustard gas from an early age (don't mix ammonia and bleach) so it's also not surprising to me that a youngster would know how to make poison gas. There's also the internet with all sorts of nasty recipes on it. It's a nasty way to go but some folks hate themselves so much they want to go in a nasty way.

Bottom line: your post is weirder to me than the event.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:41 AM
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6. 'Cheese and crackers' is an exclamation.
Kind of Rumsfeldian, a by-gone phrase really, like 'my stars'.

I must be missing somehing, but I too don't see how the link, something about world seismic activity, has to do with the story.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:44 AM
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7. Thanks for the explanation
I thought maybe she fermented cheese and crackers to produce the gas.

To get to the story from the link, you need to find a little skull and crossbones icon over Japan on the map, click it, wait a long time for it to load, and then click the "Event Description" tab on the page that comes up.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:48 AM
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9. are you whining? you had to do two cliks - jeez - and wait - golly gee
nt
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:00 PM
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10. Whining? No. Initially perplexed? Yes.
:shrug:
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:45 AM
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8. pardon me for being old with old sayings


did you perchance scroll past the world incident map?
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:20 PM
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11. And old saying that got its start with
"Jeez... (looks around, sees kiddies) and Crackers!"
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:03 AM
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2. What an awful way to go!
It's not just the stink. It's the fact that the gas produces an acid in the lungs when it comes in contact with moist tissues, and burns the lungs away as it kills by suffocation.

She was desperate to die.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 11:03 AM
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3. Crikey!
She must have made a HUGE amount of the stuff. We would make H2S in our H.S. Chemistry class for kicks, but no one ever was harmed from it.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:22 PM
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12. Female samurai used to kill themselves by slitting the carotid artery and jugular vein
A much quicker, far less painful way to go. I don't understand why she would choose this way.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:27 PM
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13. I have such an urge to comfort her - but, of course, I cannot.


girls need many mothers in this man's world
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:28 PM
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14. I'd like to know how she made H2S from bathroom cleanser.
Something smells fishy, no pun intended.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:33 PM
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15. Maybe bleach and Drano?
I know you aren't supposed to mix those two together.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:37 PM
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16. Hypochlorite and sodium hydroxide and aluminum?
Nope. That wouldn't do it.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 12:39 PM
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17. I'm glad I wasn't the only person to have that thought
Even if I thought the same thing as Bornaginhooligan. ;-)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:18 PM
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18. Sulfur bearing detergents and drano mebbe?
Reduction of sulfates to hydrogen sulfide by nascent hydrogen, driven by heat of solvation of NaOH, and oxidation of Al?

Only thing I can think of.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:41 PM
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19. Muriatic acid + Epsom Salt
HCl + MgS04
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:44 PM
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20. Wouldn't do it either.
You'd just get an acidic solution of cloride, magnesium, and sulfate.

Now maybe if you threw in a strong reducing reagant like drano you'd be on to something.
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:51 PM
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21. How about Manganese Sulfide + Muriatic Acid?
MnS + HCl = H2S + MnCl2

It's been a bazillion years since chem.

In mineral form, MnS is called alabandite, which any mineral collector can get their hands on.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:54 PM
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22. Well, maybe.
But are you going to find either in a bathroom?

I mean, there are plenty of ways to make H2S, but this kid did it, as far as we know, with "bathroom cleansers."
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:56 PM
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24. LOL...not likely.
"Honey, we're out of toilet paper!"

"Just look behind the andalusite and alabandite crystals, next to the industrial acids."

"OK...found it!"
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:54 PM
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23. There are so many ways to commit suicide. I wonder why she chose something so painful. nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:00 PM
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25. I'm not sure it's that painful, that's part of the problem.
It causes eye irritation, but the big problem with sewer workers or certain mine workers and so on is that once it passes a threshold it'll kill olfactory senses, you'll stop smelling it, and just eventually collapse. There have been a lot of cases were people died unaware how bad it was, and their would be rescuers died too.
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