Bush plans to attack Iran, and all the while killing our nation at the same time

Through poverty



Through continuing to widen the gap between the haves and have nots



Through a hugely disparate cost of living from state to state
(use the comparative cost of living calculator here to see this)
http://inflationdata.com/inflation/Cost_of_Living/Cost_of_Living_Calculator.asp


Through continuing rise in unemployment




Through families losing their homes to foreclosure



Through killing our troops for his greedy and criminal war
Military Deaths By Time Period
Period US UK Other* Total Days Avg
Total 4071 176 136 4383 1871 2.34


Through NOT doing anything TO HELP AMERICANS about the cost of fuel
http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/wrgp/mogas_home_page.html



Ans so much more...

I am poor. I feel almost powerless as I struggle to survive, to buy food, to keep working, to hopefully keep a job that provides insurance, to buy gas. Yet, if there were a grass roots movement to put a stop to all this, to put the greedy and evil Bush Gang in prison, to restore our nation as one of respect globally, a movement of the millions who are suffering under the killing of America plan by Bush et al., I would be there in a heartbeat.

stunning.

Thank you so much for this. Bush's economic and international policies have almost destroyed our country. And, WTF is to be gained taking on Iran, militarily? That equation works out as the final blow to our country's domestic situation.

Poverty, foreclosures, unemployment. These should be front and center.

I'm greatly regretting posting in specious threads about the primaries. We've ALL allowed ourselves to be distracted from the impact of the Republican rule and the fact that we may find ourselves with young men and women shipped to the Gulf to engage with Iran, and for what?

:kick:

Tucson schools are closing due to lack of money...happening in other states, too.
Here in CA the high school district where I work has had to give back $1.5m granted through a state proposal that passed.
The money is being recanted so Arnold can lessen the state deficit. :grr:
(We are only two high schools in this small district, with a new one opening in 2010, so that's a lot of money taken out of the 2008-09 budget)

I am proud to K&R...

And at the same time, very saddened...

:patriot:

:hug:

I am sad, too...but I am pretty pissed off as well. How do we stop this coporprate-run nation as we, the citizens, get bulldozed into the ground? Our government is pretty much corporate-owned. Democracy is fragile, and these thugs, knowing this, use it and us as the ruins upon which to build their fortunes.

For me, Obama offers that last chance to change what seems most days an overwhelming and impossible hope.

The Time is Now

-Barack Obama-


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MIrvNeleAE

:hi:

:hi: Welcome from Kansas! :hi:

All kinds of people come here, some playing it straight, others with all kinds of other agendas. Don't let it get to you. There's almost always some very good information around and plenty of opportunities to test your ideas about messages and issues.

corprat America and the one who was willing to go after these greed pigs. But TPTB who were afraid of an Edwards Presidency put a stop to his campaign and now we are stuck with two corprat candidates who won't change a thing. We were played AGAIN!

Am sorry he's no longer in the race.
That said, I still will vote for whoever is named the Dem nom in August.

These are sobering.

Even AK has been hit hard. I remember how high food (and beer!)prices were back in the '80s there...can only imagine how much higher the cost of living has become.

Oh, George Walker Bush. Yeah no doubt. That evil asshole could possibly do anything, because he is not liable for the damage he causes.

;)

Awesome. ;)

Thanks, bushmeat! :hi:

as, am sure, has been bothering a lot of other people as well.

Thanks for stopping by :hi:

the land of the free and home of the brave; equal justice under the law; separation of church and state; three separate but equal main branches of government; the Bill of Rights except for the sacred and sacrosanct 2nd Amendment; the fiscal soundness of the Federal government, the dollar, the equity and capital markets; the job market and the middle class; the environment; international organizations and goodwill; and hopes for lasting peace in the world. That 'pukes with their extreme RW PNAC agenda are an extremely efficient killing and destructive machine is supported by a mountain of mounting evidence, yet some 30% of Americans reportedly support the man and his dream, i.e., this madness. :(

Whether it's politics or actual bloodshed. Seems to me like they view democracy as a war of ideology as well rather than the developmental construct that it is.

Nice addition to this post, indepat! :hi:

The list is long as to the many ways and means by which the Bush Gang and its subsequent cohorts seek to destroy our nation, purposely and without remorse, abusing our nation's people, our laws and more, simply to fulfill whatever suits their fanciful and greedy notion of the day.

Some days it would seem our nation is caught in the Red Rover game from Hell: No matter which good people are sent over to break through the line of madness, their barrier is so well-protected it's almost impossible to penetrate.

Even our Congress critters rarely listen to or work for their constituents anymore: Hubris and greed override those quaint notions.

and until we hold accountable those who squander, and those who just go along, our tax dollars on preventive and agressive war there will be no money for the bulk of US citizens.



Out of Iraq and Back to the American City
Dennis Kucinich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyRK_j_EsI


snip from this speech...


"...There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. But we will spend, according to the Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, close to two trillion for this war. No weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

But there are plenty of weapons of mass destruction here in the United States, which need to be removed. Poverty is a weapon of mass destruction. Homelessness is a weapon of mass destruction. Joblessness is a weapon of mass destruction. Poor health care, John Conyers knows, is a weapon of mass destruction. Theft of pensions, a weapon of mass destruction. Hopeless, a weapon of mass destruction. Two trillion dollars for war. Imagine if those two trillion dollars, instead, had been redirected to helping to restore our cities. Let's deal with the WMD's in our cities. It's time to get out of Iraq, which did not have weapons of mass destruction, and into our American cities, which are loaded with those kinds of destructive social conditions.

This, then, is a call for the politics of unity, where human unity becomes an imperative. This is a call for the politics of economic justice, where wealth creation is available to everyone. Where the government becomes an engine to create wealth for all. Where it functions to equitably distribute the wealth.

We know the challenges. The war in Iraq is the product of the same type of thinking which underlies racism: "us vs. them." The minute that there is a "they" or a "them," it creates separation. Separation is the basis for discrimination. Separation is the basis for subjugation. Separation is the basis for insularity. Separation is the basis for conflict. Separation is the basis for class warfare. Separation is the basis for war. Separation is the basis for the destruction of our environment. Separation is the basis for the destruction of our planet."

Now, how does a cohesive grass roots revolution get started? How can enough people be brought together with the understanding that no matter how splintered politics has made our nation's people, we really are in the bigger picture together? The Internet is too much of a passive tool to actually be aggressive. Changes need to be made in numbers by physical presence. Otherwise, the peoples' voice is mute, unheard.

Seems to me that things can't go on like this much longer. The downside in getting people all on the same page is that too many have no money to physically travel and gather, have no jobs, no health care, little food, and are barely surviving as they make the sometimes daily motion of living hand-to-mouth.
Seems that was McFuckwad and Gang's wet dream all along... :grr: :mad: :grr:

instead of the 'who said what about whom' and whether we added another point to the score for our team.

:shrug:

What exactly are we winning with our team? Universal health care was discussed in the early parts of the last century and the insurance companies have gained a significant foothold since that time. The Iranians struggled to overthrow their system of rule for almost a century only to have their elected secular leader be ousted in the coup, and we know how that turned out.


The media plays such an important part and I fear with the political coverage that we have witnessed as of late it could turn more people off in wanting to get involved in "that."

How have the people in Latin America recently elected leaders who want to have a more balanced society??? Maybe it is because they have a greater number of people living in poverty, maybe that is what needs to happen here before the majority of people will vote for someone who has a totally different view.

The internet can be used to either keep people divided or it can be used to try and dispel the destructive mentality of us vs. them, which is why I highlighted that bit from the Kucinich speech.

As long as the PTB can keep us divided they win and the majority of people lose. IMO I believe that is a key first step :)

and to get people to act and join together is all about appealing to their emotions.

But, it's already clear, especially after all these horrific years with McFuckwad at the helm (orin reality , Darth), that Internet groups, blogs and movements get caught up and respun time and again by the fascist US media, as well as easliy attacked and stonewalled by those who want to continue with the hate, the discord, the bullshit that is destroying our nation.

It still is going to to take millions physically joining together to NOT be called a "focus group", or to be easily ignored by those WE elected to safeguard our Constitution.

I appreciate you posting Kucinich's words. Those are strong statements that reflect the thoughts of many of Americans.

Am wondering if it will take even larger numbers of "have nots" as the downturn of our economy affects greater numbers through unemployment, loss/lack of health insurance, and more, for them to join together and speak as one voice with the same vision: We wnat our nation back, and we want those we entrusted with its safekeeping to do thier jobs, including putting those who have acted criminally into prison where they belong...and this needs to be done before we, the people, are gathered up and imprisoned for speaking out, for using what's left of our rights.
I have dark days at times when I believe there will be no election, when I believe that there will no longer be a Constitution, when we will live in fear or hiding from those who can who will play the role of overlords.

mentality of party loyalty the people will never succeed, which is what Dennis implied in the speech I posted. We're all in this together and that includes every race, gender and political party.

Is the media part of it, they sure are, and they love nothing better then to play on the division, especially between political parties. We're so busy lashing out at the other party that we do not notice that those in control are robbing the common citizens from every nation. In that respect the internet can be a curse if it keeps people divided, yet it can also serve as a way to keep people informed, bypass the MSCM and find common ground with others who we may not agree with one hundred percent.

I have several friends and family members who are Republicans and who are not happy with King George, their words, yet they voted for Bush in 2000 because they normally vote Republican. The internet can help change that if people are open minded.

My vote, time and money went to Kucinich who wanted to hold people accountable and who saw that ALL people are in this together, unfortunately not enough people wanted to join the grassroots movement. Maybe another day, another person and more people need to feel pain before they decide we need a drastic change.

Going back to Iran for a moment it reminds me of the stories in the Kinzer book when people would approach Mossadegh about running for office and he would say the people are not ready, years later and he would say the people are not ready and then there came a time when so many people were living in poverty and felt disenfranchised by the system that he finally said, it is time.

Not sure how bad things will get before the majority of people have had enough and decide to buck the status quo and get behind someone who offers a whole new approach.

I think "it is time" now.

...and it troubles me deeply.

Thank you. :pals:

bet the ranch on that being the case.

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:hi:

My dear friend! :hi: :loveya:

Pets are part of the family dynamics
So sad...

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/RealtyCheck/story?id=4446021&page=1




Animals Left Behind, Forgotten
Pets Are Left to Fend for Themselves -- Another Casualty of the Mortgage Mess

<snip>
Crowded Shelters

As more families are forced from their homes, the fallout is painfully clear at animal shelters nationwide.

In Dayton, where foreclosures are up 50 percent from last year, every shelter in the city is overrun.

Mark Kumpf, director of Dayton's Montgomery County Animal Resource Center said the pets are suffering as a result of the foreclosure crisis, describing these animals as the "second class of victims in the national economy."

"When we receive large numbers of foreclosure pets, relinquishments, it makes it very difficult to do what we hope to do, which is find good homes for all the animals in our facility."

<snip>
Brian Baker, an animal control officer who rescues animals in Montgomery County, said he is finding more and more malnourished, flea bitten and filthy animals locked inside abandoned homes.

Even those animals that appear healthy can have myriad problems. Paula Fasseas, founder of PAWS, the largest no-kill animal adoption agency in Chicago, said the expense associated with caring for these animals is their biggest challenge.

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For some pet owners, the decision to walk away was grueling. Sylvia Wise dropped off her dog Missy at the PAWS animal shelter because her new apartment doesn't allow dogs. She said that giving up her companion of more than seven years was harder than the day she lost her job, and even worse than the day the bank foreclosed on her home. "She's my baby," Wise said. "I have two grown children and she's what I call my most obedient child. I've tried and I've tried so hard. And I've had to accept the reality that if you don't have your home, there's nowhere to really put your dog."

This country becomes more 3rd world like every year. A lot more cities will end up like this:

http://www.builtstlouis.net/eaststlouis/intro.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_St._Louis

Check out the pics, they're pretty sad.

In that grass roots movement I will be there by your side.

Just ten years ago, the poverty rate for African Americans and for single mothers reached its lowest level EVER, under Bill Clinton.

The poverty rate dropped from 15.1 percent in 1993 to 12.7 percent in 1998—the lowest poverty rate since 1979 and the largest five-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years (1965-1970).

Under a Democratic President, the African-American poverty rate dropped from 33.1 percent in 1993 to 26.1 percent in 1998 -- the lowest level ever recorded and the largest five-year drop in African-American poverty in more than a quarter century (1967-1972).

The poverty rate for African-American children fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 36.7 percent in 1998 -- the lowest level in 20 years and the biggest five-year drop on record.

The poverty rate for Hispanics fell to the lowest level since 1979, and dropped to 25.6 percent in 1998.