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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 06:55 PM
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PETA wants Eight Belles jockey suspended after filly's death
Edited on Sun May-04-08 06:55 PM by Nutmegger
NORFOLK, Va. (AP) - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is seeking the suspension of Eight Belles' jockey after the filly had to be euthanized following her second-place finish in the Kentucky Derby on Saturday.

Gabriel Saez was riding Eight Belles when she broke both front ankles while galloping out a quarter of a mile past the wire. She was euthanized on the track.

PETA faxed a letter Sunday to Kentucky's racing authority claiming the filly was "doubtlessly injured before the finish" and asked that Saez be suspended while Eight Belles' death is investigated.

"What we really want to know, did he feel anything along the way?" PETA spokeswoman Kathy Guillermo said. "If he didn't then we can probably blame the fact that they're allowed to whip the horses mercilessly."

Full article: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90F41J00&show_article=1
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:01 PM
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1. this is absolutely ghoulish on PETA's part
Until an autopsy is conducted, you CANNOT lay the blame on anyone for that terrible accident. I'm sure everyone involved, right down to the groom, is still in shock over what happened.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:02 PM
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2. STUPID...he slid off her as soon as he know something was wrong
grrrrrrrrr
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:04 PM
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3. He punished her!!!
The bastard deserves a ban for life.
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:25 PM
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26. Pardon my expression. You are a nut case and need to get a grip on reality.


The jockey tried to pull her up the second that
she lost her stride.

The horse had more heart than her body could stand.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:38 PM
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27. What's your background in horse racing?
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:55 PM
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28. My niece has twenty years behind her in jumping and dressage. I

I gave her first copy of Gray's Horse Anatomy.

If you want to blame anyone for this blame western
breeders who turned Arab native stock into a
racehorse who will run until it breaks a leg or
dies of a heart attack.

Either way the jockey is innocent. He knew she was
in trouble and tried to rein her in.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:09 PM
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4. "Doubtlessly injured before the finish"
And therefore, most certainly would have to have been put down regardless of finishing the race or not.

It amazes me how PETA actually knows very little about animals when you read some of their ridiculous statements. They react to everything involving animal euthanasia the same way I did as a child when our vet had to put my cat to sleep because it had feline leukemia. I was angry and crying and hysterical that my parents would allow them to murder my cat. It wasn't until later that I understood it was the humane thing to do.
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BearSquirrel2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:42 PM
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22. It's worse than that ...
PETA employees squads of pet nappers who pluck dogs and cats up and put them to death. Then they drop them in dumpsters. These are animals who may have otherwise been placed in a home.

PETA is a bunch of hypocrites.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:10 PM
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5. They won't get anywhere with it.
If they want to help, I wish they'd work on something doable, like reforming the racing industry to make it more humane.

The jockey is not responsible for that tragedy.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:12 PM
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6. and just like Prado with Barbaro, the jockey is probably very hurt
it is almost like losing a mate to those jockeys
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:32 PM
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9. Those small, light men
on those large, powerful animals know just how precarious their perch is, and the risks encountered in racing.

No jockey is going to ride out an injured horse; they put their own lives at risk when they do. He felt her gate change, and tried to get her stopped before the worst happened.

I don't know that jockeys really develop a relationship with any one horse; they only ride them in races, and they ride many.

I do know that no jockey wants to lose a horse; that any accident to one is a tragedy for all.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:14 PM
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7. There are so many things
wrong with horse racing - endless inbreeding for one, excessive training.

None of this should fall at the feet of the jockey who is doing the best he can at that moment.

This is like blaming the doctor for not delivering a perfectly health baby to a woman who smokes, drinks and has bad genes. THe poor horse doesn't even have a choice in the matter of its pedigree and all the problems associated with it. Neither does the jockey.

The jockey is just one person in a long list of people who are to blame for this. To lay it all at his feet is just ridiculous.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:38 PM
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13. The horse was raced too young. Like so many of our Atheletes who are pushed too hard too young
Edited on Sun May-04-08 07:44 PM by KoKo01
and have bone and muscle/tendon issues because the competition demanded they be "THE BEST" before their bodies could grow into it. As a follower of Figure Skating...Tara Lipinski the first quadruple super star jumper who was pushed to young and now has terrible injuries because of it. It doesn't matter to her or her family because they have a multi-million dollar home in and Exclusive Southern Gated Community and probably other homes and wonderful income. But, Tara isn't going to skate again because she's one of the first pre-teen super stars who was groomed to break ground for the quad jumps amd
triples rather than the tradtional art of figure skating.

Whatever pleases the crowds and makes you money...if you do steroids or push those young bodies to the MAXX...it's all about the money...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s. Managers, Trainers, Sports Doctors, Orthopedics and the hangers on of that whole "BUSINESS" whether Horse Racing or any other sport. It's all outta control.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:53 PM
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17. She was a three-year-old....like they all are.
What makes this horse "too young"?
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:22 PM
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8. and people wonder why we don't take Peta seriously......
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:33 PM
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10. Some jockey's are sadistic creeps. I hope they super scrutinize the tapes -
they will tell all.
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:37 PM
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12. How can you say that!
How many jockeys of the caliber to race at the Derby do you know personally. You must know some to have that blanket opinion.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:37 PM
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11. I'm not a Peta person, not even a vegetarian, but...
I think it's time we quit using animals for sport.

Come to think of it, it's time I became a vegetarian. The older I get, the more the exploitation and abuse of animals sickens me.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:46 PM
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16. How about not using our "young kids" for Sport, too...
Steroids and the rest all to make money for parents and managers and the rest..:-(
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:41 PM
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14. Actually you should read this DUer's observation
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:42 PM
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15. That's perfectly reasonable.
The guy should be suspended until the investigation is completed, which is what generally happens in any serious workplace accident.

If he did something wrong, then that needs to be identified so it doesn't happen again. If he didn't, then due diligence will have been done publicly, which would probably benefit him professionally as well as personally by eliminating any lingering cloud of suspicion.

That said, ultimately we need to protect horses by eliminating their exploitation for profit. As long as there's money in pushing them to the limits, there's a strong motivator to overestimate those limits.
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:55 PM
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18. That's food for thought.
You know, this really makes me think - is there actually anything I give any less of a shit about than the demands of those lunatics? I'm not coming up with anything yet, but I'm sure I'll think of something.
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piesRsquare Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:02 PM
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20. Now THAT deserves a DUzy!
:rofl:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 07:56 PM
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19. Inbreeding, racing too young -- how is this the jockey's fault? How? PETA needs to go after the...
...industry, the guys that are making mega-bucks.

Hekate

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:02 PM
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21. The Ingrid cult is so predictable
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 08:50 PM
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23. Who listens to peta?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:16 PM
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24. KInd of silly of them, I think.
I mean, if you don't think horse racing itself is ethical, why quibble about the details?
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-04-08 09:19 PM
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25. PETA finds another way to to look stupid.
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