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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:52 AM
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Poll question: How much would we have to pay politicians to NOT take corporate jobs after office?
There have been some admirable moves toward curbing the power of corporations through political donations and lobbying perks like gifts and junkets, but their greatest weapon of mass corruption is what they can offer AFTER a politician leaves office: jobs as lobbyists, consultants, executives, and board members (the last often requiring little or no work), and of course, insider stock tips.

So even if some environmental, labor, or civil rights group could match a corporation dollar for dollar in donations, they are hopelessly outmatched in backend corruption.

There is no questions that politicians start using their office to line up these jobs by doing their future employers favors long before they will leave.

How much would it take to get our elected officials to pass this up?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:54 AM
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1. Why should we have to pay anything? Why can't it just be outlawed?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:58 AM
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2. I 2nd than....OP should add that option to the poll
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:01 AM
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3. !!!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:22 AM
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4. explanation here:
it's more potent to make you THINK it and get mad that it's not an option than say it outright.
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elizfeelinggreat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:39 AM
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6. absolutely
because you cannot put a dollar amount on their greed, they would just find loopholes.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:22 PM
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14. Do you think Congress would outlaw something so against their self-interest?
We'd have to have a national referendum to make the ban on former lawmakers to take jobs as lobbyists permanent. They will not pass such a law--I guarantee it.
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 09:37 AM
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5. Don't they retire from Congress with a pension of
100% of their Congressional salary? Even if they serve only one term?

Just like the rest of us get - NOT...
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:14 AM
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9. No..
A pension made available to members of the United States Congress. Members who participated in the congressional pension system are vested after five (5) years of service. A full pension is available to Members 62 years of age with 5 years of service; 50 years or older with 20 years of service; or 25 years of service at any age. A reduced pension is available depending upon which of several different age/service options is chosen. If Members leave Congress before reaching retirement age, they may leave their contributions behind and receive a deferred pension later.
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The pension amount is determined by a formula that takes into account the years served and the average pay for the top three years in terms of payment. In 2002, the average pension payment ranged from $41,000 to $55,000. For example, a Congressman who worked for 22 years and had a top three-year average salary of $153,900 would be eligible for a pension payment of $84,645 per year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_pension

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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:10 PM
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11. Thanks for clarifying.
Maybe it was the Senate I was thinking of. One term there will get you past the 5 year requirement, and most are in their 60s (excluding two currently running for President).
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:44 PM
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12. But even then its not a 100% retirement..
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 05:11 PM
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16. The lobbyists they work for after make up for any shortcoming.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:00 AM
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7. lobbying and lobbyists need to be outlawed.
but since it's congress that would have to do the outlawing- it'll NEVER happen under our current system.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 04:24 PM
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15. You're only half right
Paid, "professional" lobbying and lobbyist ought to be outlawed. There's nothing wrong with citizen lobbyists, as long as they have no corporate connections and they're not on any corporate payroll.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:11 AM
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8. On top of their pensions they can
write books, do speaking tours, .....
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 02:02 PM
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10. unfortunately, those can be tools of corruption too.
depending on who pays for the book or speaking engagement.

They should be able to speak all they want--as long as they do it on their own dime.

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 03:49 PM
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13. A law is all it would take, I will never pay bribery.
What's the saying, "Millions for defense, but not one penny for tribute"?



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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 06:01 PM
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17. right now, they are getting the ''tribute'' from someone else.
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