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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:00 PM
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My doctor suspects the Activia yogurt ..
I have had borderline debilitating diarrhea for the past 12 days. There is a GI bug going around .. usually lasts 24-48 hours. I started eating Activia with fruit for breakfast three weeks ago. Doc thinks the Activia culture has exacerbated the garden-variety gastroenteritis that is going around. My brother (a MD) agrees.

Natch, the Activia (and other yogurt) diet stops. Damn. I do love yogurt and fresh fruit. But I have lost eight pounds in a little over a week. Not good. Thank goodness for ginger-ale and Gator-Aid.

Anyone else having problems with Activia?

BTW: I am over 60. Therefore, I am fully authorized to discuss these types of subjects any damn where I please. Fancy dinner parties at Repubs' swankiendas are my forum of choice.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:01 PM
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1. You are NOT Jamie Lee Curtis!
:rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:02 PM
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2. My m-i-l was just diagnosed as lactose-intolerant
at the tender age of 77, and she had those symptoms. Just a thought if you like milk...

But no, I have never tried Activia.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:48 AM
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33. The cultures
in yogurt are supposed to help with lactose issues. (I hate the tangy taste of yogurt, so I take pills that you can find refrigerated in health food stores.)

Anyhow, I hope the OP feels better soon. And it sucks to be diagnosed at SEVENTY-SEVEN, like your mother was, with lactose intolerance. (I had to cut our cheese and milk, until I started taking the cultures myself.)


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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:24 AM
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48. try goat cheese, has cultures but not the effects of cow milk
sheep milk is ok to. I have severe problems with cow milk. I must read the labels very carefully. Lactose is milk and is in almost everything processes. I even have trouble when they use the same equipment or cut the goat cheese on board where cow cheese has been cut first. It has taken me years to eliminate cow milk from my diet. Thankfully package labeling has taken most of the trial and error horror that I have lived with all my life.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:02 PM
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3. Dan Active or whatever that shit's call had me on thrown duty for about the same length of time.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:34 PM
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14. Hate to hear that .. but glad to hear it, too.
I'm quitin'!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:37 PM
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16. Me queet!
LOL!
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:03 PM
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4. I had a similar experience with Activia.
Not fun.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:20 PM
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10. My lower G-I tract sounds like Grand Central Station .. in stereo!
With all the trains pulling in (or out, as the case may be) at the same time. Whooo! Whooo! Tooot! Tooot!
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:04 PM
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5. Here's the thing.
If you are healthy and have no digestive problems, there is no reason to eat Activia. Your intestines have a natural flora of bacteria. Activia contains probiotics, or bacteria similar to what's already in your gut so you quite simply may have built up too much and it upset your system. Regular yogurt should be OK to eat though.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:09 PM
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6. i give it to my dog with his food to help with his gas and bad breath.
it works perfectly for him.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:15 PM
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7. That is EXACTLY what my brother said!
Funny. I've had gas (oh! harness that energy!) and breath that smells like a week-old-dead-snake-in-the-Texas-sun for the past 12 miserable days!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:23 PM
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11. Does it help on the other end?
My dog has been taking the paint off the walls for a few days.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:32 PM
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13. Which end?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:02 AM
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29. you want I should kick your dog's paint-peeling ass, Dr. Phool?
you know he has it coming
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:15 PM
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8. No problem
so far. I have just started eating it regularly though.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:27 PM
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12. Well, I'm not knocking the product .. I'm just amazed again by individual differences.
Individual differences in tolerance, that is. I went through it on B/P meds. I was way out under the fringe of the bell curve on most all the B/P meds (98% caused bronchitis within two weeks!). The beta-blockers (atenolol) are the only B/P meds (other than a diuretic) that I can tolerate.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:44 PM
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21. I didn't think you
were knocking it. I am glad for the heads up. If there is an obscure side effect of any med, I am the one who will exhibit it. My whole family is like that for some reason. Must be in the genes or something.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:07 AM
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46. me too - my family doc long ago decided not to give me any medicine


unless it was very necessary and if so, then watch me closly to see if it reacts.

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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:19 PM
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9. No problem here, either. I eat it every day, almost. n/t
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:19 PM
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22. Ditto.
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:35 PM
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15. Are you sure it's not the fruit?
Edited on Mon May-05-08 08:36 PM by Paulie
You washing it before eating, including anything you cut into like an orange or mellon, which would drag any contamination into the flesh? A rinse may not be enough. I used a vegi-wash spray to help with removing the waxes.

Fresh fruit is handled by a lot of hands, same goes for vegi's. There have been plenty of stories of E. Coli from apples which were picked up from the ground at harvest, berries with hepatitis, etc. :):) :)
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:38 PM
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17. YES - I tried it maybe a year ago or so, hoping it might
alleviate symptoms associated with IBS, that I've dealt with for many years (I just turned 44, BTW). It just made things worse! I went back to "traditional" yogurt and things went back to normal.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:39 PM
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18. Activia is just another way to muck up plain healthy yogurt. Trader Joe's yog has bifidus in it too.
I never bought Activia because it smells like a marketing gimmick to me. Trader Joe's sells about the best yogurt I've had in this country -- probably because they make it with whole milk, which tastes sweeter than most skim milks. No need for them to add sugar to cover up the sour skim milk flavor.

The ingredients in TJ's "French Village Cream Line Yogurt" are Milk, Pectin (a thickener from fruit), and the following living cultures -- S. Thermophilis, L. Bulgaricus, L. Acidopholus, and Bifidus. It has Bifidus and they never advertise, so no surprise it's a lot less expensive.

It's called Cream Line because it's not homogenized -- the cream rises to the top. I skim it off to reduce the fat content of the yogurt, and then freeze the yogurt-cream for later use. When whipped it tastes a bit like creme fraiche, with just a little tang, so it goes great on berries or in recipes like Stroganoff.

I'm surprised at the reaction some people are having, but I would suggest that you go slow if you are not accustomed to yogurt or suspect a milk intolerance. Often yogurt in small doses can be eaten by the lactose intolerant because the bacteria have a head start on digesting it.

For most people 1/4 cup daily of plain yogurt gives a healthy boost to the gut, and when taking antibiotics that kill off the healthy bacteria in the gut, eat little at each meal and bedtime to keep from getting a yeast infection or the runs.

Thanks for the info on Activia. I'm glad I never tried it.

Hekate
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:41 PM
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19. I've boycotted Danon for years now since I discovered they use dead beetles to color
their strawberry and cherry flavors.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:51 AM
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34. That's a regular red coloring...
almost any unnaturally red food is colored with the same thing.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:00 AM
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35. Actually it is considered natural as opposed to red dyes. A few companies do use beets. Much
preferable to me. In reality, why do they need to color it at all? Strawberries and cherries give off their own beautiful colors.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:06 AM
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39. Good question...
I'm sure they don't use natural strawberries and cherries... but artificial flavoring. So they need artificial coloring to go along with it.

The state of our foods is really messed up. I'm trying really hard to eat mostly all natural foods, but it's hard sometimes! Every once in awhile, I crave a Pop Tart or something that's totally processed with HFCS and other terrible stuff!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:42 AM
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42. No, Danon with fruit on the bottom does use real strawberries and cherries. I'm very happy
with organic all natural Stoneyfield. :)
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 08:44 PM
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20. Not a pretty subject but, had similar digestive problems for ;
Edited on Mon May-05-08 08:59 PM by jedr
a few months. After many tests they figured it was bacterial scaling ( bacteria build up in your digestive tract and cause food allergies ( lactose and wheat) due to not being able to digest properly.. a round of antibiotics and then re-establishing , with yogurt ( pro-biotics), I've done just fine. I caught my bug visiting a rest home when my FIL was ill. Don't known if this is your problem, but you might mention it to your doctor. Good luck.....
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 10:33 PM
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23. In all seriousness, yogurt in the US tastes like crap
I will not even touch plain yogurt there... Asia and parts of Europe are quite different... they still make REAL yogurt.

Some of the best I have ever had was the plain yogurt they serve with breakfast in Armenia. Who needs fruit and extra sugar!? Danon throws that shit in to cover-up the fact they make crappy yogurt.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:20 PM
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24. greek yogurt: naturally sweet, creamy, no aftertaste, yum.
greek limonada, bottled locally in reusable bottles, not too sweet, lemony, yum.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:14 AM
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40. oh what a nice compliment you made about Armenian yogurt
it is probably made naturally with no preservatives, this Armenian would like to thank you for your comment!
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:29 PM
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25. Try a local farm brand if you want real tasty stuff
Look for something with 'active yogurt culture'.

But take your docs advice and lay off it for a short time.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:37 PM
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26. I've been eating it for months and
have had no problems....even had that 48 flu with diarrhea and vomiting...and was fine. I'm around your age.

But everyone's system is different.

The last I heard was that their claims of regularity were bogus....and there was a class action suit against them.

I don't agree with you brother or doctor. It's something else....but I'd stop the yogurt until your system is back to normal.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:47 PM
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27. Dairy products and fruit are not a good
food combination.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-05-08 11:50 PM
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28. I make my own yogurt.
A litre or two a week. It's absolutely fresh all the time, and no preservatives or any other funky additives. Cheaper than the junked-up stuff that's been sitting on the grocer's shelf for days, too.

I love it with fresh fruit and/or cereal and it makes fabulous apricot frozen yogurt flavored only with dried apricots and fresh orange juice. Wouldn't have it any other way.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 02:14 AM
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30. try eating it every other day Mac
I like the taste of that stuff but I'm against eating anything every day except chocolate :D
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:12 AM
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47. a day without hot tea or peanut butter is a sad day for me :)
nt
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:24 PM
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49. oops
add coffee to that list.......my taste for tea was cured from growing up in England with a Brit mum. :D
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:23 AM
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31. I'm always suspect of food that pawns itself off as a supplement or drug.
Eat plain, old yogurt - preferably organic.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:35 AM
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32. I've been eating that yogurt
and have had no problems at all. I eat it not because of any intestinal problems, but because I think it's the yummiest yogurt I've had in years.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 07:34 AM
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36. I've had the exact same issue with herbal teas...
they do a number on my GI tract.

Guess it has to do with individual differences. ONe size does not fit all.

As my doctor says: If you have an adverse response to a specific food product,
do not use it. The commercial marketplace WANTS to make a profit, and thus
makes their products seem miraculous.

Knowing my sensitivity, I stay away from Activia, et al.

Many regular yogurts do the same thing, so it's not an everyday food for me.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:13 AM
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37. The GI bug hit me a week ago last Saturday.
Severe pain in my abdomen and diarrhea. Slight fever and general tiredness. I was worried that my diverticulitis had become worse. I tried eating plain yogurt to no avail. I even thought about buying Activia. I chose extra strength Kaopectate and that did the trick.
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:25 AM
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38. you can buy the bacteria in capsules instead of "sugar milk".
Ask for "probiotics" at a health food store.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:29 AM
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41. Is it the sugar in the yogurt? Did the Doc say how? n/t
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 09:55 AM
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43. I prefer crunch in my breakfast
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:00 AM
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44. I've been eating plain Greek yogurt with honey for a few weeks
and it's made my hair really soft! I don't know why, but it's true.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 10:06 AM
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45. IMO, the tv ads are aimed at the bulimia crowd. n/t
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