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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:02 PM
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Philadelphia Police Beating
Edited on Wed May-07-08 03:23 PM by ccharles000
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:30 PM
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1. What does everybody think.
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:35 PM
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2. But.. not ALL cops are bad.. so ..
uhh...

Yeah. Disgusting.
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TooBigaTent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:46 PM
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3. This is standard practice in Philly. It happens every day, only there is usually no camera
around to record it.

If you want to see how justice works, watch and see how many (NONE) of the pigs are punished.

Interestingly, even the two-digit IQs at "the other site" did not like what they saw. But their fear is that authority might be shifting to the Dems and they might become the victims of cop brutality. They have been fine with it in the past, but they think it might be aimed at them. Stupid, I know. they do not realize that the criminal justice system has always worked in the way illustrated by this video.

Yeah, it is disgusting. But in no way surprising.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 03:58 PM
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4. Oink!
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:01 PM
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5. Cops used to know how to beat
a suspect w/o leaving a mark, and were sensible enough to do it in private. I don't agree with it. I think it is disgusting behavior. But as a resident of Philadelphia, i can understand it. These cops are tired of being targets. Tired of burying their own. And tired of perps getting away with it.

Philly is one fucked up place, and I can't blame the cops for going apeshit. I'm sorry it happened, but I hope that they at least did it to the right guys.

And I hope the cops get punished for it. But they probably won't. Especially since the recent ruling in NYC.

The ACLU better jump all over this.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:08 PM
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7. would you be so forgiving if you were the target of a beatdown?
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:15 PM
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8. If I killed a cop?
I'd understand it.

Did I come off as forgiving? Good. We should forgive wrong-doers their wrongs. And PUNISH them accordingly to boot.

BTW, I was a target of a beatdown a few years ago. Not cops, but muggers. I was jumped by three, and rather than asking for my wallet (which I would have given happily, since there were three of them), they just beat the holy crap out of me. While a cabbie watched.

A few weeks later I saw one of them. He was in line at the soup kitchen. I served him dinner. And I forgave him.
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:11 PM
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9. What if they "thought" you, your parent or child were the one that...
killed a cop? Thats the whole point about this shit, you are supposed to be innocent and have an opportunity to prove your innocence because sometimes the police make mistakes. We have a system in place, if it needs changing then people that think like you should fight to change policy so the bad guys are punished after being found guilty. This whole beat people first thing has been going on forever and is getting worse along with allot of other police state shit, its the police officers way of showing he is pissed and he just gives his own justice without a trial. It happens allot in small crimes where the officer knows that the "perp" will get off and be right out, its their way of showing their frustration and if its good for them, is it good for the public to treat them that way?

If this is a good idea, then you are suggesting that when something like this happens, the public should go and beat or kill the officers before THEY themselves have been proven of any wrongdoing...I think thats a crazy way to handle the situation.

Obviously, you are already showing some signs of brainwashing or at least it sounds that way? Do you think that the judge was in the right to not have a jury trial and make the decision on his own for the officers that fired 50 bullets at an unarmed car and killing that guy in NY? Do you also think its ok that judges are telling coroners to omit the fact that a tazer was the cause of death in cases where people are dying from them?

I ask because I am curious of your thought process because of the way you answered to the post, it could be you worded it wrong but it certainly sounds like you are accepting to what is taking place in our country or just are oblivious to it?

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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 03:29 AM
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15. See, there are two "funny" things about this
1) I'm bothering to respond to somebody who accuses me of being brainwashed, when all I said was that I can understand, empathize if you will, with the feelings that caused the most recent Philly police beating. I did state that cops used to know how to do this better. I also said it was abhorrent behavior. I am perfectly able to understand a position and condemn it at the same time. But please, these assholes didn't realize that there was a helicopter over them? You know, the loud thing that was giving them the spot light with which they aimed their kicks? DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB! At least Bing Crosby beat his kids with oranges. No marks. So cops are dumber now than they used to be, but no less cruel? I thought I made my feelings clear.

Actions bad! Feelings understandable.

2) It came out in the news tonight that they weren't even the right guys. The cops beat the holy hell out of 'just some dudes.'

Please go back and read my post. I said the ACLU should jump all over this...as in to sue the PD...you know? Punishment?

Also, your leading statement proves my point rather than your own. If it was my kid that they beat, how would I feel? What would I want to do? What if it was your kid? Wouldn't you want to beat the shit out of the cop who beat your kid? Wouldn't you at least want to to suffer in some small way? Now what if your kid risked his life every day to make your neighborhood better? And a couple of his friends who did the same thing just got the same treatment? Don't you think you'd be even more pissed off?

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:13 PM
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10. So was Ragin' in Miami, but I don't know if he's still here or not. I don't know if he has forgiven
them or not either.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:23 PM
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11. Hey, yeah... what happened to him?
:scared:

Anyone talk to him IRL?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 07:52 PM
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13. Eeee gads, no. Now I must know if he is ok
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 08:00 PM
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14. And where is Swamp Rat? I haven't seen him lately either?
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 04:29 AM
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16. I think you meant to say that you can't blame the cop for wanting to go apeshit
The feelings are understandable. The actions, on the other hand, are not excusable.
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JackintheGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 12:31 PM
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17. Look at my post again
that's exactly what I said:

"I don't agree with it. I think it is disgusting behavior. But as a resident of Philadelphia, I can understand it."

My first statement about cops of yore knowing how to beat without leaving a mark is still valid. They *did* know how to do it, and they did it behind closed doors. I STILL don't agree with the behavior, but it's smarter to do it in private, not underneath a helicopters spot-light.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 04:01 PM
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6. Welcome to America and have a nice day. nt
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coriolis Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-07-08 06:27 PM
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12. Some DUers think only they should have the right to bear arms.
Funny how that works.
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