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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:03 AM
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So, where is the international outburst of compassion, marches and pledges of sympathy...
... that followed 9/11 ?

:shrug:
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:13 AM
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1. I have them here in a matchbox.
You're welcome to come and see them, when I open the Museum for Former US American Allies and Friends.
It's gonna be huge, it starts right at your borders!
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:18 AM
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2. ...
I think you are not getting my point...
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 09:15 AM
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10. reading further along, I got your point.
And it's a valid one. My best guess is it has to do with a limited number of things.

1. Myanmar/Birma is regarded as a military gunta regime that does not help it's citizens at all. As the leaders of a country lose respect, so do the people.
2. In the region we're talking about, there have been a dramatic number of large scale nature disasters in the past five years. Tsunami, earthquake in Pakistan, another cyclone less than a year ago. All in all there may have been over 600.000 victims, millions of people became homeless and millionsmore have seen their economy ruined. For NGO's and other relief-organisations there's tons of work to do, and too little people, resources and support to do it.

1 and 2 combined result in an overkill of trying to reach victims half a world away with food and aid that's rejected by the local government. People grow weary and stop caring if it takes too long.

Come to think of it, you never mentioned Darfur?

(do I get the point now?)
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:24 AM
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3. Smith_3
Smith_3

If you had followed what was in the airwaves after 911 you would have understand that the rest of the world have all sympathy, all compassion and it was a almost collective outburst all over the world, to support what US was to do next. In fact The little Norwigian Royal Airforce with 50 F16 was flying over NY City and Washington DC to protect the two City's against enemies after 9/11. If that was _not_ a show of both compassion, and sympaty I dont know. Off course we was not sending every one to US. But we have been both helping US in mainland US and in Afghanistan...

But, I guess it was not what the american public was been told by their media, and by their government.. Rather the opposite.. I had an american "news channel" a couple of months following the 9/11 and it was NOT a news channel but rather a propaganda channel for the most extreme of american "I am hurt and the world shall pay for it" attitude.. It was WAR on this, and war on this.. And it was a di stored view of the world who was represented to the american public.. A view that the rest of the world hated US, and everything it stands for.. And that the rest of the world was sheer full about the horrible criminal act in NY...

Believe me when I say for the most part the World was in shook, maybe not as hard as you was, but for the most part it was sorrow, sadness, and fear of why this could happened.. And for the most part, we do have compassion, and sympathy for you, and your country

But Mr Bush on the other hand screw the whole case with his attitude, and his harassment of the European alliance (NATO) was not doing some good either.. Arrogance, and stupidity destroyed the whole concept of Compassion, and pledges of Sympathy. If you should accuse SOMEONE of what was going wrong, you should look little closer to home.. In fact you should look very close on your own media, and the pois ion they was sending up in all media, both printed and others...

But, if you don't believe me, you don't believe me.

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:34 AM
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4. ...
Edited on Thu May-08-08 05:35 AM by Smith_3
:-) thanks. but not my point either.


to be specific, what I am aiming at is that there is nowhere near the reaction over 100.000 deaths in one day, somewhere in Asia, as there is over 3000 deaths in one day in the United States..... :eyes:
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 05:56 AM
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5. Are you sure about Norweign F-16s and 9/11?
first I have heard about it.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:27 AM
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8. hack89
hack89

As I know about it, it was 4 F16 from the Norwegian Air force who was stationed in US, as a part of NATO response team to protect US City's after 9/11... Article 5 in the NATO treaty.. One for all, all for one... Many know about it, even that it was not exactly been published by the news paper..

But I guess that is not the case anymore, now as US are inbolded in a war they have no clue to get out of.. And if it goes as some fear, US would have more than enough when the war is over to get their army into shape again to help their Allies on the other side of the pound anyway...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:02 AM
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6. Our president rejected and squandered that pretty quickly.
But, I read your other post in which you asked about the Myanmar tragedy - I bet you will see worldwide, as we saw after the tsunamis a few years ago, an outpouring of goodwill, money, and help that exceeds that from after 9-11. Part of the problem is that Myanmar's secretive, paranoid government is making it very difficult for anyone to offer aid. Many countries - the US included - don't trust the government to fairly distribute (or even distribute at all) any aid funds that we send, and so they are trying to get their own people on the ground - but Myanmar is being very resistant to letting people in, even certified UN Aid workers.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:18 AM
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7. Katrina is a better signifier than 9/11. .
(Where are the links to the articles about FEMA not letting volunteers into NO with their boats to help evacuate people?)
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-08-08 06:51 AM
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9. ...and Blackwater "policing" the streets, above and beyond the law
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