How do we know there is not something sinister going on here?

How do we know that the pentagon has not been cremating untold numbers of US soldiers, who have no family to look out for them? I have long felt the pentagon was not telling the truth about the numbers of soldiers killed in Iraq. Vietnam proved that the pentagon would lie about these things and they have only gotten more corrupt in recent years.The only reason this was discovered was because a friend wanted to attended the cremation of his buddy and saw the "‘Friends Forever Pet Cremation Service.’on the outside. How do we know they have really been reporting the truth about how many they have cremated at this pet crematory in DC? Judging from history, we know that the pentagon does not tell the truth. If it were only 200 soldiers, why did then need to use a pet cremation services? If they weren't doing anything sinister, why did they suddenly halt this when it came to light? This screams Mob hiding the bodies to me.

it makes me so sad to know that there is no way to have confidence in our officials, in the agencies that are OUR employees.

we really cannot know. i doubt however that there are very many soldiers who don't have some family.

People from estranged families, soldiers they have promised green cards to, criminals they have let out of jail to fight in Iraq....they probably send these people to the front lines knowing that if they are killed no one will notice. Maybe I am just a conspiracy theorist, but I don't trust anything this government does and there is something VERY fishy about this story.

do you have a link?
i wondered where your post came from...

i hadn't seen it. will read it now. thanks

we assume the Pentagon is being forthcoming with the casualty lists. It's the same rule of thumb you use in criminal cases.

We know they hired the media to lie to US, lost trillions of dollars which Rumsfeld told us about on 9/10/01, have 'lost' billions in Iraq, hired contractors that have screwed up everything and still don't have water and power flowing to the Iraqis but are able to build permanent bases that look like a city within itself....

I don't trust one thing the pentagon has done, and since they are proven liars and war criminals my 'rule of thumb' is the exact opposite of yours.

the other things you mentioned. Yet, at the same time, serious accusations shouldn't be levied unless there is hard evidence of a conspiracy to hide the war dead. If it won't hold up in a fair courtroom, there is no use to assume the suspect is guilty offhand in terms of this count.

Do you know anyone who had no idea about the attacks on 9/11 until a plane hit the pentagon over an hour after the world trade center? Yet, Rumsfeld had no idea what was happening until a plane hit the pentagon. The entire world was watching the events unfold, except the folks at the pentagon??

Then there is the standard procedure that NORAD follows when a plane is hijacked, scrambling jets within minutes to intercept. Somehow no air force jets were available to be scrambled until it was too late.

The Pentagon was, as many Nazis at Nuremberg attested, "just following orders."

I may have my doubts as to their veracity, but wild accusations just make us look foolish.

But it is proven they are lying evil war criminals and there is definitely something fishy about quietly cremating our military at a pet crematorium. This administration is so arrogant, that I also find it fishy they would suddenly stop this as soon as it is found out, as if they don't want anyone to look further into the matter.

If we don't ask the questions, who will?

that fired 50 bullets at that guy after his bachelor party, didn't even face a jury, the judge decided he would be the judge and jury and let them go. Look at the judges that are having coroners omit that tazers were the cause of death in cases where family members were filing lawsuits or how certain people in our system now don't even answer to congress and nothing happens. I think we have crossed the line to no return, when the justice system has been completely ignored and skipped over with no consequences...is there really any justice anymore?


If you are part of the elite and powerful, there are no rules, if you are a citizen, there are all kinds of new rules? I agree with the person above and I don't give the corrupt system the benefit of doubt anymore because they are no longer what they were, now they seem like mobsters making their own rules.

I don't worry about myself but I worry about my children and grand childrens future and what may happen to them, it certainly feels like something is in store for us all sooner than later.


If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck and looks like a duck...oh never mind, move along there is nothing to see here, go back to watching American idol people.

WE owe it to them to stop these monsters. Look what happened after Nixon was let off the hook.

And they had over an hour of warning...

What does that tell you about having a AWOL republicon preppy as cOmmander, and a clown with five military deferments as VP?

I thought I heard that if they are pronounced dead in Germany they don't make the list. I think I heard that.

icasualties.org follows these cases like a hawk.

this, we are all going to have to put our tinfoil hats on :tinfoilhat:, although I agree with you that what the Pentagon says officially has little to do with reality. Look at the Pentagon Papers from the Vietnam war. If you had no other information, you would believe that all was rosy and peachy there.

No family was present for the fallen soldier so attended and low and behold they were cremating his friend at a facility that is for pets, clearly labeled so on the outside of the building. Once exposed it was quickly shut down and all the headlines are "pentagon shuts down facility" as if they made the choice to do so on their own. It was only because of this whistleblower that this has come to light.

publically and in front of Congress, like when John Dean blew the lid off of Watergate. He needs to get someone in Congress interested in investigating this.

Getting Congress to be interested is the problem.

Wouldn't that number (X=cremating untold numbers of US soldiers) be rather difficult to keep quiet from the public? Are there not too many eyes watching reported deaths and injuries from an untold number of sources for something of this magnitude to be kept in the dark?

Have there been rumors or reports of mass creamtions of U.S. soldiers in the past?

If the number of U.S. deaths was greater than reporterd, wouldn't it be a P.R. coup for the opposition-- yet the number of deaths reported by MSM US media and Al-Jazeera differ by less than 75 total...

If the Pentagon suddenly gives a fuck about pet cremations getting mixed in, I'll be a monkey's uncle.

What's likely here is the Pentagon discovered a "remains destruction process" that destroys all recognition of DNA, so they can cover-up further war crimes.

The "pet cremation" story is a cover for their manipulation.

Same as the shambles their housing for Troops scandal, Pat Tillman lies & cover up.

Go to youTube
type in "Governments Lie" and you will see even more evidence of that fact.

But I believe that thanks to camera phones and small recorders a lot more of their dirt will come to light.

and that maybe they push cremation because they don't want the bodies examined.

It is not like they needed to be doing this at a pet cemetery, so I just can't help but wonder what the real story is here.

rather than a standard one despite the fact that it's not that big of a deal. It's probably cheaper to use a pet crematory.

Imagery of having a loved one cremated in the same place as someone's family pet isn't something anyone wants.

We don't know how many loved ones were cremated by this company and unless congress investigates...we may never know.

IMO, this is a case of really bad judgment. Everyone knows the Pentagon has very few instances of good judgments.

I remember reading one of the lists of names of the soldiers killed when it hit 4,000 and I thought, well I don't know anyone personally...so I'd look up Pat Tillman.

He's not on the list.

Friendly fire incidents aren't considered casualties. As far as I'm concerned, he was sent to battle and died; he should be counted.

What other "categories" are the GOP omitting?

wow, interesting, I had no idea...

...I just cannot think of another explanation for why his name is not on the official list.