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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:00 AM
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Heard Rush talking about today's show on the radio this morning
I turned to our local all news (when Rush isn't on) station to get a traffic update and was greeted by Rush's lovely voice. (Not pleasant at 7:30 in the morning.)

Anyway, he was talking about today's show. It's about the "poor strawberry farmers" in Ventura County, California who can't grow strawberries anymore because of EPA regulations banning pesticides. And he mentioned the strawberry business is a several million dollar a year enterprise. Oh, and of course, do we want to pay a fortune for our strawberries and this is all because of liberals, etc, ad nauseum. I had to turn the station before getting a traffic report, Rush honestly makes me want to puke.

So I have a couple questions. First of all, are all these strawberry farmers poor? I immediately pictured large corporate farms when he mentioned it was a multi million dollar business and he only mentioned ONE county. The image of a poor little farmer just trying to feed his family never entered my mind.

I am also wondering how we raised fruits and vegetables BEFORE we had pesticides. Did our ancestors not eat strawberries?

Thanks for answering my questions. As you can tell, I am not a farm girl. :hi:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:02 AM
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1. Farmers here growing strawberries as big as tennis balls.
I guess the EPA rules don't apply in Alabama?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:04 AM
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3. Are the farmers poor?
Or are these grown at big corporate farms there?

We don't have many poor farmers here in the midwest anymore.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:06 AM
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7. Not at all. The Karpinskis are doing just fine.
They sell most of their produce at the store behind the farmhouse.
Some goes to local restaurants.
And the Silver King corn will be in soon.
yum
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:03 AM
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2. Don't know about the regulations, but the fruit stands I've seen in Oxnard
did not seem especially wealthy.

Strawberries as big as your fist, though.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:04 AM
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4. So maybe the farmers are giving them steroids?
LOL

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:11 AM
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8. Maybe it's just me, but I avoid fist-sized strawberries because they have no flavor
You know the ones that usually have a semi-hollow white core. Blech.
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:05 AM
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5. Fruit stands along the 126 from the five to Ventura- plenty of Oxnard strawberries.
What is he talking about?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:06 AM
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6. I read that an ORGANIC tomato today
has less than half the nutrients and minerals a store-bought tomato had 50 years ago.

I believe our best action is to buy from local growers, but that's not possible for everybody.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:14 AM
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10. IMO the best option is to maintain a small home garden.
Second best is to buy local.

Growing amazing tomatoes and strawberries is a breeze if you put even a little bit of time and effort into it.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:55 PM
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20. That makes no sense
Is a link possible?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:14 AM
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9. strawberries are pesticide sponges
if you only buy one organic fruit make it strawberries.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:15 AM
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11. I'm in the Strawberry Capital of California
We don't have to use pesticides, the farmers are doing just fine.

All the pickers are from Mexico and the strawberries are fantastic
because of cool nights.

Rush Lies what else is new?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:25 AM
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14. Have a tri-tip at Pollo Morteno for me.
Edited on Wed May-21-08 11:25 AM by rucky
I miss that place.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:18 AM
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12. The migrant workers who pick the strawberries are poor.
Always have been.

I'd imagine strawberry farm owners range from small farmers to big corporate farmers.

I myself would favor subsidies for the small farmers of such crops as strawberries (most subsidies go to corn and other big crops like that, not little things like strawberries.) Vote Obama.

You can grow strawberries commercially without pesticides, but the yield is lower and therefore the price is higher.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:22 AM
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13. Around here, you can pick your own strawberries
Edited on Wed May-21-08 11:24 AM by ayeshahaqqiqa
and they are raised organically without pesticides. Farmers who do so aren't rich, but aren't poor, either. I'd say Rush was talking about the corporate factory farms, not the real farmers.

Edited to add: "Around here" is northwest Arkansas, not California.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:48 AM
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17. We have a lot of pick your own places here in SE PA, too...
and more and more are organic.
FWIW, I used to grow strawberries in our yard, did absolutely nothing to them but plant them and trim the plants after they died off for the winter. They grew small to medium size, but the best I have ever had and with a beautiful fragrance. Plants will produce about 5 years, then replace with new ones. We bought "everbearing" strawberries, had fresh berries all summer till frost, later if you cover them with a light mulch.

Have a fig tree in there now, great stuff for breakfast.

mark
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:32 AM
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15. Gee, the poor strawberry farmers in Ventura County who can't grow strawberries anymore?
Edited on Wed May-21-08 11:33 AM by calimary
Um - what are all those low-lying plants with the large, fat, ice cream cone-shaped red fruits on them that I see, row after row after row after plastic-covered row, field after field after field after field after field? I've had to drive my kid to and from Camarillo (in Ventura County) every weekend (sometimes twice per weekend) for almost a year, for band rehearsal, and practically all you see, besides some artichoke and broccoli fields, are strawberry plantings. Gee, rush, I just don't see the evidence that the poor strawberry farmers in Ventura County can't grow strawberries anymore. But who should I believe? Your fat mouth or my "lying" eyes?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 11:37 AM
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16. LOL
I was hoping someone who knew the area would respond.

Thanks! :hi:
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:08 PM
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21. It must be some sort of farm bill promotion.
Isn't there legislation moving thru Congress on farm subsides?
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:51 PM
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18. would you want to eat a
strawberry grown in a field that was sprayed by a chemical banded by the EPA? I suggest people start mailing Rush strawberries sprayed with various band pesticides and see if he will gladly eat them.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 12:55 PM
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19. LOL Great idea
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:11 PM
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22. you really should turn rush off...
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