Transcript and some reflections on KARL ROVE's non-denial = re Siegelman

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George: "... You did not contact the Justice Department about this case?

Karl: "I, I, I read about, a, I'm gonna simply say what I've said before, which is, I found out about Don Siegelman's investigation and indictment by reading about it in the newspaper."

George: "But that is not a denial."

Karl: "Ah, a, I've I've, I've, a, ah, you know I read about a, I heard about it, read about it, learned about it for the first time by reading about it in the newspaper."

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Reflections on analysis:

No denial in all that. Where was the follow-up question??

FIRST QUOTE: Karl DOES NOT use the word "first" to describe how he learned about it. He jut asserts that he can read and has read. We knew that.

SECOND QUOTE: A very clever parsing takes place. "YOU KNOW" is the clever qualifier. "...you know I ... learned about it for the first time..."

That is still not a denial. That, taken literally, was just Karl stating what he assumes George knows.

And what is with the stammering? I this was a child in the schoolyard denying something, the poor kid would be so BUSTED!!!!

THIRD Dang, that was difficult to transcribe!!

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I found a universal rule which appears to govern human actions or words more than any other: namely, to steer away from affectation at all costs, as if it were a rough and dangerous reef, and (to use perhaps a novel word for it) to practice in all things a certain sprezzatura which suppresses all artifice and makes whatever one says or does seem uncontrived and effortless. I am sure that grace springs especially from this, since everyone knows how difficult it is to accomplish some unusual feat perfectly, and so accomplishment in such matters produces the greatest marvel; whereas, in contrast, to labor at what one is doing and, as we say, to make bones over it, shows an extreme lack of grace and causes everything, whatever its worth, to be discounted. So we can truthfully say that true art is what does not seem to be art; and the most important thing is to suppress the artistry, because if it is revealed this discredits a man completely and ruins his reputation.

–Baldassare Castiglione, Il libro del cortegiano (1528), lib i, sec xxvi (S.H. transl.)

A stumble from http://harpers.org/archive/2008/05/hbc-90002995 worth sharing in a case which "shows an extreme lack of grace."

One that converts the non-denial into a denial!!
Beware of substitutions for the actual mutterances!

They can't even lie good any more... that doesn't mean that KKKarl didn't tell the Justice Department "get Siegleman". He just learned that they complied with his request via the newspapers.

so much experience at that!!